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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Therein is the source of Russia's military ineptness. "Modern Doctrine" as you wrote would indeed have been a lot more careful about the storage of explosives and the deployment of assists. A modern military is ideally used like a scalpel, carefully cutting in and getting the job done with as little unnecessary damage as possible. But the Russians don't appear to know how to do that anymore. Their scalpel is a massive bloody hammer that they swing around like a mid thing. It's no surprise that the hammer would eventually hit them in their own damn head.

    A modern disciplined military would have been smarter about the storage of weapons. A modern disciplined military would also have been taking the time to actually train their recruits to be more than meat for the grinder, and a modern disciplined military would not have nuked their chances of winning over the local population by raping & murdering them.

    If this attack has crippled their southern air forces, all the better. I don't fancy Russia's current abilities of replacing Soviet-era military aircraft.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,424 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I be slow climbing the fence as well. He was risking it even leaving the car. Tempers would be frayed. If someone saw you they would be libel to shoot.

    Hard to beat Intel on the ground that is seeping back after these attacks. There was more than one dead and five wounded I would say

    Post edited by Bass Reeves on

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL


    Russia is a pathetic country. Got their asses handed to them in this war and yesterday trying to pretend this wasn't a massive widespread attack from Ukraine on the airfield. A joke country akin to North Korea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭rogber


    What I don't understand is why Ukraine are denying involvement in the attack, especially with Zelensky now saying their aim is to take back Crimea. Surely if they have the weapons to do such attacks they'd be saying so loudly, It's a massive morale booster. Or is it some top secret US weapon and they've been told to keep quiet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    No wonder the Russian holidaymakers, if that's who they were, are all fleeing by car. But to where and how do they back to the homeland.

    Piece in the Guardian today about the nuclear plant, claiming that Russian authorities were hoping to redirect the output towards Crimea power supply and into Russian grid. That this involves 'destroying' some of the power infrastructure and so on. Curious that the recent disputed claim of shelling at the plant was said to cause damage to power lines. Whole story could be misinformation of course and sounds to be a very crude and dangerous way to go about managing a major power plant. But ties in with events.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭thomil


    You don't let your enemy see your cards, it's that simple. If you disclose that the attack was carried out by HIMARS or M270 launched ATACMS, Neptun missiles or Ukraine's domestically developed Grim-2 short range ballistic missile, you'll just expose those weapons systems to even more potential reprisal attacks. If you disclose that it was an air strike, it will likely result in increased Russian combat air patrols and a beefing up of air defenses, whilst stating that the attack was a special forces raid will massively increase the risk for the team that conducted the raid and that might very well still be hiding in Crimea, waiting to strike the next target.

    By saying nothing, the Russian Forces don't know what they need to defend against. They only know that even far behind the front lines, in areas that Russian Forces and civilians perceive as safe, Ukraine is able to strike seemingly at will. They now need to spread their forces thin trying to cover their own rear, reducing the number of troops that can be sent to the front line. Then there's the psychological aspect. Knowing that your base might just spontaneously explode without warning can't be too good for morale.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,053 ✭✭✭jmreire




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    I would have completely agreed with you, up until last night.

    I sat down to watch the excellent, un-biased, Austrian commander's battlefield analysis and, while it is one month old, ( there is another one due any day now), it is very sobering to watch.

    Take away the propaganda from both sides, it seems Ukraine is in a pretty perilous position, with over an estimated 100,000 troops dead ( 50%)and 1000 mechanised units out of action.

    Now, this analysis was done just after the HIMAR's were introduced, and only 2 at that, but I'm anxious to see in the latest analysis, exactly what strategic changes Ukraine has conducted in order to launch a counter offensive.

    As of the last analysis, Russia definitely had the upper hand.

    One or two spectacular strikes will not be enough to win this war, just going on what I watched last night.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL


    Any links to that? Would love to hear a level headed unbiased opinion on how things are going. I know every war has it's propaganda but this one in particular it's off the scales from both sides. Thanks in advance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,053 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Strangest piece of shrapnel I've ever seen......

    Double weapon....it has happened, so cannot be denied, but questions remain, how did it happen? Who did it? and and what kind of weapons were used??? And most importantly, when and where will it happen again? Sleepless nights ahead in the Russian hierarchy. If they still had tumbrils, they would be rattling around Red square soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,343 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    No sorry I shouldn't of posted it now thinking on it. Its easy to say things and post stuff but without evidence or some like you say after pics it's hard to judge. Tho I say we should see some soon i would hazard a guess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,507 ✭✭✭zv2


    100,000 dead? Zelenskyy said recently it was 100 per day for a long time but has now reduced to 30 per day???

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,859 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Where on earth are you getting 100,000 troops dead from? That is grossly off any estimates from basically any source I've seen.

    I know that he mentions "50% of our equipment, and even soldiers, lost" but there is absolutely no way he means 50% of the entire professional armed forces dead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Yeah surely at most that would be 100k dead or wounded - military types often group them both together as "casualties", but there is no way they lost 100k dead.

    That would mean between 300k and 1million wounded, as dead:wounded ratios range from 3:1 to as much as 10:1 depending on medical treatment available.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭Rawr


    The Russian holidaymakers likely reached Crimea via the Kerch Bridge, and will likely return that way.

    This Road/Rail bridge was built after Russia annexed Crimea and it links the Ukrainian peninsula with a bit of the Russian mainland just to the east of it. It is likely the safest option for Russian civilians to reach Crimea (for now). The other "Land Bridge" Russia has managed to carve out of Southern Ukraine doesn't have many direct routes, and is a warzone, making it pretty dangerous to even their own army. That leaves the Kerch Bridge, which long-term is probably going to be a target for attack.

    I must question the intelligence of a Russian holidaymaker in going to beaches near military installations, which are not that far away from an active warzone featuring an enemy who claim the very beach you are relaxing on. Boggles the mind. I get that Russian sun-holiday options in Europe are likely curtailed a lot lately, but surely getting a tan isn't this important!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,507 ✭✭✭zv2


    Yes 100k + 200k wounded would put their entire professional army out of action!

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,669 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    I'd say the Ukrainians are not letting on what happened is because if they say the Russians will take defensive actions.

    If its long range strikes they move them further like they did with their boats, if it was a "special military operation TM" then they beef up defences around ammo dumps etc and keep their planes close to the theatre of war. In either case, putlers thugs can use the knowledge of what happened to make it harder to happen again.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    I do like that you think the Austrians are providing unbiased analysis.

    The reality is that nobody, including your Austrian chum, has accurate loss estimates on either side and the only real conclusions you can draw are gleaned from territory held and OSINT.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Ukraine claiming that there were 9 aircraft destroyed in the attack.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,507 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    A month old! Everything changed when the HIMARs arrived…Have you forgotten this was a 3 day operation?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    I too would like to know where this 100,000 KIA figure is coming from because if that is true then Ukraine are loosing troops on nearly a 3:1 ratio against what Russia is loosing.

    I seen some Russian propaganda stating they have found Ukrainian documents showing estimates of losses to something like this, and didn't pay too much heed to it much like I dont with any other Russian propaganda I see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,129 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    This is the video he's talking about.

    One correction, a Ukraine general admitted to sustaining 100k losses back in June. A casualty is a soldier who is either dead or wounded, and my guess is that 100k number includes missing/captured. So Ukraine hasn't actually lost 100k dead, the number is still terrible.

    Secondly, two months have passed since then, so the Ukrainian casualty rate is going to be a lot higher since the 100k won't include many casualties sustained during heavy fighting for Severodonetsk. What is the most up to date casualty number for Ukraine now? 120k, 130k, 140k? Those figures don't seem unreasonable.

    On the otherhand, the Pentagon came out yesterday and gave their assessment of Russian casualties running at 80k. American intelligence has shown to be top notch, so I am inclined to take the number at face value.

    The situation for Ukraine looks really grim to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    Thanks. please let us know when there's an updated analysis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    the kerch strait bridge might just be in range if the below is anything to go by

    Fire at oil depot in Yeisk, Kuban

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,859 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    One correction, a Ukraine general admitted to sustaining 100k losses back in June

    No he didn't, as far as I can tell its a completely made up number.

    This is the article the Austrian video is referencing and it is very poorly summarised in the video:

    I'm not going to talk about the anti-tank guided missiles or anti-tank guided weapons for now. I’m just talking about heavy weapons. As of today, we have approximately 30 to 40, sometimes up to 50 percent of losses of equipment as a result of active combat. So, we have lost approximately 50 percent. … Approximately 1,300 infantry fighting vehicles have been lost, 400 tanks, 700 artillery systems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    So if we take these figures at face value it means that Ukraine is suffering far greater casualties than Russia when it is Ukraine mostly defending ground. This would not be a good sign for Ukraine at all if this was the case.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,593 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    There's no way 100k Ukrainian soldiers could have been killed or injured in June. That wouldn't tally at all with what we've heard about the war's progression - the fighting was effectively a stalemate that month, with very little real movement along the front.



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