FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3

If you are not talking about corruption then what are you blathering about then?

Please make your points concise, brief and factual and don't engage in whimsical Walter mity type storytelling, as no one has an idea what you are talking about.

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I am inquisitive but i won't swallow $hite from random perpetual doom merchants and misery junkies on the internet either. You seem to want to engage in that type of debate and talk.

I agree completely that the real test for SF will be not this election but the subsequent one. This is because ppl will have had 5 years of "change" under a SF gov by that stage, and so the party will no longer represent whatever it is ppl think change means. The electorate will either approve or disapprove of what they've achieved during those years and will let it be known. Having said that, I think the future of FF is much less clear. Their political fate will depend on whether it enters gov as junior partners with SF, or if they decide to take to opposition next time out. Some in FF will recoil at the thought of coalition with SF, but will do so in order to stay in power and remain somewhat relevant. However, others in the party will not agree to it full stop therefore I think the the prospect of a split in the FF camp and the formation of a breakaway element can't be ruled out...

I would believe someone who has worked years in hospitality and knows the area over a guy who posts here daily.

Who said Ireland is "really corrupt"?

The issue here is that there was A MASSIVE and OBVIOUS case of corruption and it's being minimised by yourself and the rest of the Mount St massif.

I don't think it'll really be a choice for them. If they are required to make up the numbers in an SF-led government they will have to step up, or be seen as frustrating the will of the people for an SF-led government. I suspect most in FF would see this as irresistible logic, even if they don't believe such a deal would be in the party's own medium to long term interests...

FG are in a better place in the sense of where they want to go. FF are not but may have some credit in the bank if good progress is made on housing. Irate and grumpy old backbenchers aside, most FF TDs are not averse to the current arrangement but there is not much of an answer to the question of why people should vote for them. If they can find a coherent one they may be in a position to continue this present format or even consider other options. Even so, I don't see them embracing the left wing utopia just to stay in power especially as they are "the enemy" but both will campaign for themselves.

Progress in 18-24 months' time they can sell to a floating voter. That's not you anyway! It matters to all us but politically it probably matters more to FF even if FG will also be happy to take credit for it.

I wouldn't even try to predict where we'll be but I know locally I see plenty of signs of housing construction. If they fail as you call it they'll have a hard time selling their brand in 2024 or 2025. Not sure hoping they will fail just to get them out is a good mindset though.

I actually think the election may depend on housing. A housing sector in much better health is good for the incumbents and the country, but it would rob SF of their primary stick to beat the government with.

The review into it was extended by about 5 weeks so in theory it should be coming to an end very soon.

These are the current board members

You mean Paul Hyde? Don't think his possible political affiliation was a problem as much as voting on projects where he had investments. He has denied any wrongdoing but it really didn't look good at all and it's very easy to draw negative conclusions about ABP outcomes.

Have no idea what you are referring to. It seems you are not talking about corruption but talking about "corruption"....

As usual, you cannot communicate to others what you mean.

A lovely conspiracy theory you have there.

It's a beautiful morning Marko & still trying desperately to back track on Your comments, Tut Tut, As you are acutely aware it's YOU that mentioned corruption, not I., no amount of bluster & your favourite word "Blathering" can change that 😉 good morning, I'm going for a walk.

How long do want to keep this up Marko 🤔 another full day, a week 🤔 honestly get over your Faux Pas, it's not that terrible. Do you need constant reminders posters are not required to alter what's already clearly clarified or explain themselves to stop constant badgering, indeed answer any questions put to them particularly when someone repeatedly trying to deflect.

I've presented a point, clarified fully, what are you missing, it's baffling. It would seem you've put your foot in it, I get that, but I can't undo that for you. Can you please move on, I'm sure there's positive news you'd like to share with us, I tried finding some this morning and it's just Grim I'm afraid.