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Where is the cost of living crisis exactly?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,199 ✭✭✭Cork Lass


    ^^^^^^^^^^Couldn't agree more. Astounded that a teacher is so unaware of what's going on in the lives of so many people. They might have a different attitude when the Government start making cuts to public sector pay as will surely happen in the not too distant future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭JizzBeans


    Sorry but you cant move sideways in centra on Saturday morning with so many yobs buying chicken fillet rolls. MacDonalds and BK are the same



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭rtron


    This craic of people moving to own brands versus big brands. Has got to eventually hit those companies profits soon?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    i don’t mean this towards you but I see a lot of people i Ireland posting this type of thing. A great reset. The rich blah blah.


    If you look at it objectively if you live in Ireland you are the rich. Globally. Which means any reset of levelling means your income and standard of living has to fall to level up the people below.


    Oh right. It’s just those richer than you that should pay. Gotcha.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    I'm actually a little shocked OP at your comment. I totally get your not affected yourself which is brilliant but if you're a teacher you surely would have seen it in your classroom before the summer holidays. There was a survey published in May/June that stated 1 in 5 kids are living in poverty. In a class of 25 that's 5 kids. I am also a teacher and wouldn't doubt this for a second. And in some parts of the country its is more than that. I know of parents working 3 jobs to keep things afloat.


    We are lucky in that we haven't been affected too much. Yes it costs more to fill my car and my shopping and utility bills have gone up but we are far from poor. I do find myself thinking more carefully when shopping now and meal planning more and I also find I have less disposable income than I used to but we will (fingers crossed) be okay. My husband works in the private sector so his job could be affected but hopefully that won't happen. We are lucky in that we have minimal childcare costs and we will have our mortgage paid fully in the next few years but this is not the norm for a couple on their mid to late 30s.


    Winter will be interesting. I am watching the price of kerosene almost daily to see when is the best time to buy so we should be okay this year. We also have an open fire so of it came to it we can light that. Someone mentioned about in that it could be like the 80s when people used blankets and only heated one room. My husband tells me daily that, that is how we will live this winter. But all joking aside my home house in the late 80s had frost on the inside of my bedroom windows most mornings of the winter. And it didn't do me any harm. We all could do with cutting back a little bit but food or heating shouldn't be the choices we face.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,786 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ah plenty of tricks still left up their sleeves with share buy backs, potential bail outs, debt forgiveness etc etc, wouldnt be worrying too much about them.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,488 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Many of the big firms make own brands too. Weetabix is a notable one - basically all the own brands are identical and made by them. Too much effort for someone to build the kit to make them when they can buy them at the back door and relabel

    It still impacts them in terms of margin, but not as badly as it seems



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,496 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    yeah, they sell weetabix to the people who want their premium brand, and those on a tighter budget buy dunnesabix, so they sell more than they otherwise would have.

    they're not necessarily identical, though; they might use a cheaper ingredients mix for the own brand stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,264 ✭✭✭Andrewf20


    For non essentials, I don't think just the rich should pay. I think the polluter should pay, whoever they are. But the richer people are, the more polluting they do generally.

    I don't see a way that richer societies are going to curb conspicuous consumerism unless money is taken out of their pockets. The risk is mass layoffs and social anarchy. But I'd like to think there is the possibilty of a world where we earn less but also work less and get things back in balance a bit more. I think we can be as happy with less stuff.

    When you read about the hedonic treadmill you come away with this feeling that people are never happy for long, always desiring more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,786 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    the only issue with the polluter pays approach, under modern political and economic ideologies, thats generally always the end user, and virtually nothing to do with the actual creators of the goods in the first place, i.e. market forces are almost completely exonerated from the process of responsibility



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,169 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Shop in M&S and have your burger in a gourmet burger place and you need not tolerate these awful people. Stop slumming it.

    Post edited by whisky_galore on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,264 ✭✭✭Andrewf20


    Agreed but they exist because of the buyers on the street. So I would argue that the buyer carries a burden of the responsibility to some degree at least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭gary550


    god bless the children who have to listen to you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭gary550


    I'm surprised a person of your financial calibre frequents such working class hovels



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,649 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Why are you in all these places on a Saturday?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,378 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Why are you joining the "yobs"?

    Anecdotal stories about places like that being busy on a saturday morning and? Who cares? They are comparatively cheap I would think compared to other options...it's not exactly a sign there is loadsa money sloshing about the place...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    The poster is pretending so much they might as well pretend that as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,772 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Yeah remember it well waking up and the window frosted up, most houses had no heating either apart from a range or open fire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭NaFirinne


    The cost of living crises is only getting started. Those who don't notice this just live in their own bubble. They won't notice until it comes to their door, by which time it will be far to late to do anything about it.



  • Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    If there was any justice in this world at all, you'd be on the streets of Caracas ravaging through bins like a dog for your next meal.

    Only then would you appreciate the horrors of your alternative economics which as driven millions out of their country.

    Instead, you are given the luxury to pollute every thread with your nonsense, safe in the knowledge you'll never experience it on the ground.



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  • Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You're absolutely right, there are no low paid workers in the public sector and ps workers are immune from what's going on with the general economy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Bit cynical


    What you may find is fewer own brands on the shelves if everyone tries to by them. They only make sense for companies if it is only the minority who don't mind generic brands are buying them. I remember this happening in the last recession. Own brands that I had been buying stopped being stocked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Instant gratification will ultimately kill us off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Survey my arse.


    These nonsense surveys by NGOs creaming it are a load of horse shite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    Only a matter of time before those suffering get blamed.

    You want affordable rent, a house, functional health system, McDonald's? Spoiled we are *roll eyes emoji*

    If TD's got to the stage were they were told to lay off the burger King, they'd call in the IMF for a loan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    McDonald’s is pure shite.

    Pretty expensive nowadays yet packed every day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,331 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Yeah I am moderately confident I will be ok, but can't believe people are trotting out the usual cliches about avocados,,netflix cut backs etc.

    Yes, cutting back on some spending like this makes sense but in the grand scheme of things, when you look at how brutal this could be for some of those struggling , getting rid of their netflix subs isn't really going to make much of a difference sadly.

    I suspect there is an element who are comfortable and privileged who want those struggling to do nothing bar get up and work and survive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    Completely. The people paid handsomely to govern have shills happy to turn things back on the public. The people who time and again engage in me feinism and get caught looking after their own have some cheek. There are people lost businesses and workers still struggling so those people can carry on as before.

    Telling people who can't make rent to cut back on McDonald's is pig **** ignorant.

    A rotten whiff of Pee Flynn off them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Can't believe this people say boards has trolls and this Thread gets 4 pages.. 🤔



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    SF are proposing 50 EUR rise in weekly dole payments,

    quoting the Vincentians report on cost of living for a single person.



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