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Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,819 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    It's not bait, it's a sincere question.

    If you don't want to answer then don't bother replying, don't try and paint me in a bad light and make out the question was completely impropriate. That's just low grade posting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,900 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    A hotel room with an en suite bathroom and meals covered beats sharing kitchens and bathrooms with Irish families and having to pay for your own food. There aren't that many completely empty houses up for grabs, most will have to share if they want to get out of hotels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,819 ✭✭✭✭Boggles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Gant21


    Just curious to see if they took up employment to get their lives back into a routine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,355 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    No , for reasons I dont want to discuss here .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit



    There truly are some people on this thread who seem to blindly back whatever bullcrap they are told to.

    This nonsense that they are all poor and unfortunates seems to be the part that makes you think you are achieving something. They themselves are saying scammer season is well and truly open.

    "They are some truly sad individuals posting on this thread, omg they so damn miserable that they jealous of what those poor people are receiving"

    'Jealous' - how the feck that nonsense stuck. One person says it and you all run with it repeating it. Poster used it as they were running out of any points to make. It is absolute crap to suggest jealousy is what people are annoyed about. And quite idiotic too.

    free dinners, free beds, free medical care, a few euro in their pockets every week that an ordinary Irish person would spend on a good night out.

    So you don't include the bills we have to pay, the accommodation - multi million euro contracts to hotels, and the €200+ per person as the same money? You are going to struggle hard when you realise how many houses we have and how many are earmarked to come here. Don't even try to work out how much a week of dole is going to cost. A lot more than "an ordinary Irish persons good night out" that is for certain, or what sort of strain it is going to have on the country as a whole.

    Isn't it absolutely wonderful what the Irish government have done in offering refuge to these unfortunate people. All of ye against the support offered to these people should hang ye heads in shame and go and pick up an Irish history book.

    Pick up a history book, are you back with the nonsense as to "look what we did a hundred years ago and more when we were poor"? As well as doubling down on the poor unfortunate Ukrainians and telling us to hang our heads in shame.

    Where were you for the homeless protests? Marching with them or doing nothing? Where are they now? Still in the same situation? Where is this magic money coming from?

    Why should anyone hang their heads in shame? For standing up for our country and people?

    There is so much to point out about why this is wrong and why it shouldn't continue, that to read people coming out with the same irrelevant points over and over again in it's defence just shows that they either can't justify it themselves are just warming their blessed little cockles for themselves, spouting it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    Still searching the history books to find when we got the hotel and monthly wages provided. Fu##ed if I can find it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    And had all the jealous people in those countries because of the free potato sacks they stole got to warm themselves with. How far do we go back in history? Where is the line? And do we just pick and choose what history to use, or are we told which situations or stories are appropriate for such moments?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Gant21


    You should not have mentioned you are hosting Ukrainians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,355 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,900 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I get that, what I'm saying is those vacant second homes are limited in number, and given the choice, a lot of families are going to opt to stay in the hotel over sharing with an Irish family and having to cover their own expenses. It's not the fault of the refugees, but if they're given the opportunity to be picky and stay in the hotels they'll do quite well while subsequent refugees will end up in tent camps while all the different organisations try and find places for them. Meanwhile, a lot of Irish families will have given up waiting for anyone to take up the rooms they've offered and the supply of rooms will have shrunk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,819 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    From my experience the ones staying with hosts are ones that are excelling.

    Primarily because they get plugged into the hosts network, friends, families, neighbours, clubs, etc.

    From that comes not just social inclusion but employment prospects.

    It's absolutely priceless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,900 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Yeah, I've heard stories of people linking up with families through Facebook and the likes and they seem to be doing a much better job of getting things sorted than the people going through the official process. Had a post earlier in the thread about it, my folks still have two unoccupied rooms with double beds and decent wifi and so on and they've been waiting for almost five months. They redecorated the rooms for this. Now they'll either find someone unofficially or say **** it and head off on holidays and leave the rooms empty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,900 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    To add to that, I don't think everyone is going to be all "land of a thousand welcomes" as long as some of the refugees are getting better entitlements than the average person on welfare who also has to pay rent, bills and groceries etc. I think it would agitate the natives less and be fairer all round if they got the same as the Irish on welfare. If the country can cope they can explain later why they couldn't do it when it was mainly a domestic housing crisis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones


    The 5 billion surplus available for the budget will probably just about cover it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Gant21


    It would be in our better interest to start paying off our national debt but that won’t happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,571 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I think the Government know they are in trouble on this one, Putin seems to be in this for the long haul and as long as the war goes on they will keep coming here.

    Granting them full access to welfare here was absolute madness IMO, coming from a country were the wages are less than what they would get on the social here is going to draw them to Ireland like a bear to honey.



  • Posts: 617 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Do ye not have anything else to be doing but posting endless crap all day long.



  • Posts: 617 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You obviously have nothing else to be doing but sprout bile all over thus forum all day long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    Work all day fu##in long as you will notice most of my posts are very early when I get up or when I get home but probably be lost on you.

    Also my bile is in my eyes a truth in my eyes how my country is being destroyed.

    I see you still haven't explained your comment on why people should look into a history book. So really this is bile.

    Go away a cop yourself on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Gant21


    It’s going to be challenging, good night.



  • Posts: 617 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Go to bed and tomorrow morning get up and do something nice for someone. Honestly you will feel so much better!



  • Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Schools, health services, budgets.. All squeezed which has an effect on the services we are taxpayers and citizens of Ireland pay for.

    Since I seem to have to spell it out for you, it seems clear to me that you've either just not thought these things through or they just don't effect you.

    Either way, my mind is boggled by your ignorance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Gant21


    I’m stating fact, I do daily nice things for people. What is the point of your post? Seriously?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭hullabulloo


    What a state this thread is. History books folks. There for the grace of whatever God/no god go you.

    At least numbers being racist towards Nigerians/Bosnians/Romanians the last few months have decreased.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    True. If you make a racist remarks you get banned.

    True if you have a genuine worry or concern and throw it out there you don't.

    Most of the time it's posters who haven't a clue what racism is and use it when they haven't really a plausible reply.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,636 ✭✭✭maninasia


    Yeah yeah yeah...you sooooooo good...others baddddddd.

    They say things you dont like to hear. Means you so goodddd compared to them. You so righttttt.


    You care sooooo much about the problems Irish people face in the biggest housing crisis in our modern history.




    We get it. We ahould feel ashamed abput ourselves. We should shut up and say nuthin'.

    Just do what yer told. Be goooddd boys and girls, be gooodd like you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    Yes care I do.

    And really this post has backed up some of my points.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    I can't get my head around lefty thinking at this stage. On one hand African Refugees. Use the word lightly. Can come in droves. Yet once the Ukrainians come their left in the dust. How does that actually work. It's almost like they don't care and just jump on the latest bandwagon. I mean should they not be marching on the streets at this stage seeing African Refugees displaced for Ukrainians ? It's very very odd. Almost like likes are the warm feeling and comfort that's needed. 🤔



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    I would think that the other droves of migrants are still entering the country in their thousands,probably more than ever as the focus and spotlight is more on the Ukranians at this time. Does anyone really think this country has the proper enforcement in place to stop and really know how many illegal immigrants are entering the country every day. I certainly don't.



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