Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

As noted in my pervious post, German regulators picked up \ responded to the rare but serious side effects with AZ and Jansen and restricted its use:

It is unclear but I suggest possible that the second study you have cited picked up some of those cases as VITT is listed.

Also, the numbers quoted in that study of 11% - 33% (2 or 6 from 18) are quite different to Schirmacher's range of 30% to 40% and his seems more certain of his numbers than 'possible'. His figures are an outlier, especially if his figures related to period after the changes in vaccine rollout in Germany restricting the use of AZ and Jansen. Either he is assessing cause differently to other pathologists OR he had a very unusual sample set OR he is mistaken.

As for the second study, the word "vaccination" is in quotes which is a red flag. Similar work fact checked here.

There is a lot of reputations and careers at stake not to mention the reputation of vaccines as a whole if these mRNA vaccines do not turn out to be overwhelmingly safe. It is a brave expert who can or will raise concerns against the common narrative. As can be seen by this thread any criticism of the wonder vaccine will be accompanied by wails of "anti vaxxer" and give us the unquestionable proof.

But it's been two years... Vaccines including mrna will show complications in the first 6 months... In fact the mrna doesn't stay around in your body forever.

So the vaccine has been proven to be overwhelming safe. If you don't think so please prove it. There have been countless studies posted in here showing the safety.

Possible yes. We will only see over the next few years on how excess deaths and fertility rates pan out. Certainly yes boards.ie have participated in the shut down of discussion. I was banned in the early days for suggesting that efficacy of the vaccine looked to be not great, a point that is now well proven.

No.

Prior to the pandemic, anti-vaxxers spent decades screeching that vaccines are dangerous. They aren't.

During the pandemic, anti-vaxxers switched their target to the Covid vaccines and started screeching they were dangerous. We've all had them and they aren't.

Now anti-vaxxers have switched again to rabbiting on about "the long term effects" and they'll milk that for a few years.

Everyone has their doubts about things, anti-vaxxers are people with doubts which morph into fanaticism. Next thing they are on a conspiracy theory forum writing hundreds of posts about the "dangers" of vaccines alongside new-world-order crackpots and genuinely seeing nothing wrong with that. We have several at that stage.

It will never change. There will always be anti-vaxxers. It's also a mini-industry now worth millions, full of grifters.

Of course I do. Thats what I was stating. That they were crap against the variant that existed at the time, we did not know what extent the new variant was circulating at the time..but even mentioning the possibility that the vaccines were not 'working' got you a ban.

People who spend hundreds of posts pedantically "doubting" vaccines in a conspiracy theory forum are not genuine.

No offense, but how stupid do you think people are?