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3 men jailed for conning woman out of €254K

  • 28-07-2022 07:10PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭Juran


    I can't get over this story. My heart goes out to her, I imagine she won't get a penny back. But how would you not be suspicious of people asking for large amounts money for investments you only know through dating websites. I read the report, but can't see anywhere if she ever met the man or men.

    They each got a prison sentence, but as we know, Irish prision sentence meams out in a year or less. I said it before about the boys who committed PUP fraud, they should be stripped of Irish citizenshio and deported. Only punishment that will work.


    Three men jailed for romance fraud that saw woman (60s) lose life savings

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/three-men-jailed-for-romance-fraud-that-saw-woman-60s-lose-life-savings-41875158.html



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    Sorry, but how stupid can you be? That Dubai story ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Seriously giving money away to a stranger on the internet, what was she thinking, must really be lonely and in love

    After prison release, they should have to repay, no social welfare, then deport



  • Posts: 700 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You beat me to it but how naive can you be?

    I guess there's more of both out there!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,628 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    It was a hell of a lot of money to give away, and while I have sympathy for her, all I can think of is "A fool and their money are easily parted".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    There are different levels of naivety.

    She was willing to travel abroad to facilitate a bogus multi million dollar deal. This is quite an impressive level of naivety, and I think she gambled away her money.

    No, she won’t get it back but I also don’t think she should. There is one born every minute



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  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I really hope free legal aid wasn't granted to these con artists.

    And the state of the defence. My client pleaded guilty first. So what? I know its their job but I don't know how of these defence barristers sleep at night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    About 10% of people in their 60s have Mild Cognitive Impairement - it's like pre dementia. The person may be living independently or mostly independently but be very susceptible to scams. Also, a lot of elderly people would have considerable savings.

    Travellers routinely target these people for scams, offering to do "work" around the house etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,628 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I didn't consider that. Did her bank not become suspicious? I read a case recently where another woman was fleeced for bogus roof repairs over a period of time and the bank intervened.

    I'm sure travellers also target older people living alone because they're more vulnerable and easier to intimidate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭Juran


    Out in under a year, generous social welfare awaiting once they get out, gets to keep Irish passport. Whats the deterent ?

    Agree, something wrong with this woman.


    And there is me appealing a parking fine 2 years ago, getting letters from.local council about legal actions, procecutions, criminal record, etc. I paid it in fear a record would affect future jobs, visas to the US, OZ, Canada for holidays, credit scores, etc. I'm the mug.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    would the woman get the money from the Rolex and car the guards seized from them?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭Juran


    Oh I bet my last Euro they got free legal.aid.

    I know a person that every 2 years is up in court for fraud, conning people out of money from €500 to €2000. They get legal aid, found guilty, suspeded sentence of less than 1 year, not forced to pay it back, and goes home to their house paid by HAP and gets theirs weekly social welfare payments.


    If I lived in Africa, Asia, Middle East, I'd be making a beeline for this country. Its f**king great !!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,879 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Good lord.

    As a poster on this website put it before, middle aged women looking for pipe online usually get scammed for thousands.

    Seriously though, how did someone so nieve have €200,000 in savings and friends would would lend her €50,000?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Pissy Missy


    That's what I was wondering too. People here are very quick to judge as if they've never done anything foolish in their life. This person was obviously vulnerable in some way whether it be loneliness, neurodevelopmental condition etc. I really hope she gets something back, at least to pay back her friend, what a horrible situation to be in. Hope she's getting some support some where.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,367 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Geez old men around the world are throwing millions every weeks to women on the internet, so it's hardly a shock that a woman would fall for lies laced with love also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,202 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    There have been plenty of men and women scammed online and not all middle aged either. People have lost their life savings to romance scammers as well as false investments. Scammers like this are just scumbags.

    I would think this lady did not tell her friend what the 50K was for and might have said it was something for herself.

    Scamming is very prolific, but also very obvious once you are tuned into it. Nobody would get 5cents off me, never mind 50grand.

    Poor woman.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,283 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    The owl judge was as subtle as a sledgehammer, eh.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    Nigerian? how surprising I was always under the assumption that Nigerians were law abiding decent folk



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,558 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    They don't call it treasure Ireland for nothing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,985 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    she was massively naive. To put it politely, but naivety is not a crime….

    that said the sentences as handed down by the fûckwit of a judge should have landed them in jail too… what use is it, that when individuals scam / steal a six figure sum of money from a person… deliberately engineered, schemed, organised and premeditated every step of the way….and yet thanks to another of our glorious ‘public servants’ ( hahaha ) they will be back on the streets in two years… probably without getting deported…

    Ireland, I dunno. Ffs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL


    Seen these three animals outside the court earlier on the news laughing and smiling. Hope they get a really hard time in the can the utter evil cnuts.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,283 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Desperate sad, but she must have been consumed with it all. How did it go on for so long? I wonder had she family ( children etc) and if so, did they know nothing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Why aren't these 3 scumbags under deportation orders after their sentence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Jarhead_Tendler


    I know it is victim blaming but how could she be so gullible|?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Sometimes victims are to blame.

    I think this is one of those occasions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Giving over a quarter of a mill to someone you never met nor even had a video call with, how in the jaysus did she ever accumalate that money?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭buried


    Deportation? lol There's a greater chance they'll end up on the Late Late Show some Friday night next year in order to showcase "their side of the story"

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,202 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    No, it is not one of those occasions.

    You have no idea of the victim, or their circumstances, to be able to judge people.

    The blame always lies with the people who carry out the crimes, not the people who are the victims of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    People get sucked into those things a lot easier than you'd like to think.

    Once they start giving over a small sum at the start, then they don't want to believe they are being conned and will throw good money after bad. Sometimes even when it becomes blatantly they are being scammed. They do that rather than admit it to themselves.


    I remember watching that fella "Jim Browning" on youtube that "hacks the hackers" and scammers. There was one where he rang the lady and told her was being scammed. But she was insistent that she was had not been and continued to wire money to Thailand or wherever it was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Still stihl waters 3


    At that rate of going is anyone responsible for themselves at all, I'll just leave my keys in my jeep tomorrow and I'll leave my wallet on the dash as well, it won't be my fault of course, and that'll be my defense when the insurance refuse to pay out, personal responsibility seems to be a rare thing these days with people looking to blame someone else for their mistakes

    Post edited by Still stihl waters 3 on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,098 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I often wonder how much it must suck to be a genuine Nigerian prince just looking to spread their wealth only to be abused by people who are so damaged and bitter about it that they can't open their hearts and learn to trust again.



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