Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

And what NEW thing did you learn today?

Our 'crippling' health service has got nothing to with immigration. Conflating the two issues is just ridiculous, our health service has been a shambles for a long time, and has far more to do with work practices than any blame on 'foreigners'.

Surely you can see that lack of vaccination amongst Ukrainian refugees is a red herring that xenophobic posters will dive on (xenophobic might appease some posters that racism doesn't apply because they're the same colour). They're from an Eastern bloc country, natural reticence to Government approved programs is a given.

Our crippling health service may have nothing to do with immigration, but the point is that it would be an even bigger strain, even more so if a bad virus hits this winter. We wouldn't have anywhere to put the extra bodies (alive), no room. At best, we may get some of the tents back and hope it is a mild winter while people are treated in those. There is no point in telling people to stay in or go home and pass it on to their families.

Vaccination or lack of it won't be the problem. Xenophobia isn't the issue either as much as many might try to pin that on people.

How many times this has to be repeated. When Ukrainians were being given refuge here, many/most stayed quiet, said nothing, and were ready to do our bit, take in more people in bad circumstances. Then they started getting priority housing above our homeless and people that can't afford their own, benefits, and so on.

Then the number of them coming in rose, and rose again. Then we were told it was to rise again, until we were told we ran out of space.

It is not the refugees seeking refuge that is the issue. It is the government not vetting them all and cramming in too many. Many non Ukrainians getting in under the pretence that they are. Many coming in don't need the big handouts they are being given, were any of them means tested or whatever sort of equivelant there may have been? I mean for God's sake, we have done our bit, given them refuge and given them accommodation etc. maybe it's time the ones that can afford to , started looking after themselves. They are in no more danger here once they have escaped the dreaded war that is annihilating their country. Let them pay for themselves the way everyone else is expected to. They have been given citizenship and everything else because the dopes in government want the numbers to be x million before 2030. That is their agenda, and they can own it, but why the rush of cramming so many in, under such a short period of time, because we all know at this stage that things aren't as bad over there as they initially were, or as they are being made out everywhere, I suggest that over half that are here today could go back tomorrow and live a relatively normal life back on their normal wage etc.

Xenophobia is exactly the issue here, no matter how some posters would like to dress it up

Add on the extra 35,000 permanent homes they said they'd need to build on top of the 33,000 homes they are building for us plebs to buy for 700 or 800k or rent for 2 - 3000 a month.

That'll put a fair dent in housing them. And they'll be free or heavily subsidised too.

We may find out what real racism is shortly, as apparently this evening refugees from Ukraine arrived in Kinnegad, westmeath, but the building that they are supposed to be housed in, is currently still occupied by another group of refugees from other countries that were supposed to have been moved on to tents already. But no room for Ukrainians there tonight, unless they all double up.

I couldn't guess why the other refugees must leave so the Ukrainians can stay there.