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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭thebronze14


    At this stage I'd imagine 99% of people are ok being in a crowd. Not as if Covid is going anywhere so there's no point hiding away. We're all going to get it at different times of our life. I certainly wouldn't say they are uninformed. They just realise life is for living!



  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You, and your parents, would be far better served if you spoke to them in a calm and rational manner, not in a frothing rage of “da meeja”, “hysteria” and the general vibe of ignore it completely. Arm yourself with facts. Talk about the new variants all being less impactful and the impact of vaccinations on severity. Discuss how these factors and others mean covid is now about as impactful as a mild flu. Relate cases of individuals your parents may know, especially from their own generation, who may have had it recently and are fine. Also acknowledge that there are still risks, but in the context of the risks before covid.

    Recognising that their concerns were based on a reality that has now shifted is also important as it acknowledges thier feelings. And recognising that how they choose to live is a personal choice is important also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,070 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Bed wetters? I guess sloganising insults for the people you disagree with is a substitute for thinking.

    You seem to have be advancing a medical diagnosis that long covid is somehow all in the mind. A theory you have no evidence for, except insults. And that's not evidence of anything.


    Post edited by odyssey06 on

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    No one is denying that long covid exists. It just gets maximised greatly throughout the media and with certain individuals you’ll find on social media. All illnesses can have side effects. I know more people with ongoing problems from strokes and heart attacks than i do from long covid.

    I know of masses of people who have had covid over the last couple years including ederly people. I get to know of them through my work. None of them have post lung problems. I know one woman who claims to suffer pains in her chest 6 months on but she smokes 60 cigarettes a day.

    I’m not saying long covid doesn’t exist but it’s not the big bad wolf some like to make it is just to try and prove some point. Other illnesses would be a higher concern to me than covid. A cousin of mine dropped dead at 56 last week.

    Stressing about getting long covid is something I won’t be doing. It won’t stop me carrying on with my life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,070 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    That poster appeared to suggest it didn't exist \ was psychosomatic. Which is why I responded. So I presume you disagree with such a suggestion.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Or maybe the poster is trying to say that they don’t know anyone who has long covid and thinks it is blown out of proportion on the forums? There is a certain predictable cohort on these forums and elsewhere who do seem to highlight long covid etc more than others.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Hospitalisations contine to drop. Now down to half of what they were a couple weeks back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,070 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    That was clearly not what was implied and your response is likewise what can be expected from a predictable cohort who sees no evil, hears no evil except that they want to see.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    No he didn’t say long covid doesn’t exist. Show me where he said that? He said it’s the usual neurotic that are mostly whinging and stressing about it.

    Making false assumptions when you know nothing about me. Hear and see no evil? That must be why i never contracted covid despite being high risk. I must be reckless right? I do the basics to protect myself.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,070 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Only bed watters from March are the only people that suffer from it or know people who suffer from it?

    Clear implication it's all in their perception.

    Seemed to be the usual neurotic whinging and stressing about 'faux' hysteria.

    Which I refuted with evidence.

    You're just defending nonsense with more nonsense.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭walus


    Long covid affects about 7% of hospitalised patients and lower for not hospitalised. Obesity significantly increases the risk of long covid. It is not an independent risk factor though.

    ”Where’s the revolution? Come on, people you’re letting me down!”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    No you said the poster said it doesn’t exist. He said it does exist amongst the ‘bed wetters’. I prefer to call them neurotic. The poster is correct it does seem to be the nervous that mostly post about long covid on here and other platforms. The likes of Hegarty, Eric Ding etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,070 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Another argument where you have to bolster your weak case with perjorative terms. It was the clear insinuation of their post.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    There’s no argument really. Maybe the poster is telling the truth? Maybe the poster only knows people with long covid that are mainly neurotic? It’s quite possible. They will usually be more vocal about it. You want to dismiss it because it doesn’t suit your narrative i get that. As for me i do know long covid exists i’m not denying that but if you go by what you read on the internet sure you’d never leave your basement.

    What weak case? I know masses of people who had covid and fully recovered old and young in the Omicron era. If you think i’m lying just say so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,723 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    It's amazing how you didn't address what's going on with my niece. It's like you are living under a rock.

    You are just as bad as the people who still wear a mask walking down the street, a polar opposite but just as bad.



  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What do you want anyone to say? 5 year olds get coughs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    covid is with us forever now, same as many other illnesses that can cause long term side effects or complications, but no one cared about them because they didn't get wall to wall media coverage for what is years at this stage.

    I don't care if you're 5 or 95, I'm living like it's 2019... Carefree, mingling and maskless.

    Life is too short and miserable to be worrying about "what if", we need to shrug off the panic and the twitching, let covid fade into the background like the flu or a cold.



  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The best thing we can do for our kids is to never lockdown again. Their immune systems need to get exposure so they are strong enough to fight off illness etc.

    Locking them up for a few years wasn't good for their physical or mental health.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,723 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    So you are definitively saying it has nothing to do with covid? She got the cough while she had Covid.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    The 10 second rule didn't do me any harm... Who needs antibiotics 😁

    Lockdown didn't do my mental health any favours though, however you can't complain because you were taking one for the team and the greater good...

    I didn't see the piles of bodybags on the streets like we were told would happen, but that's another day's rant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,723 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    As I've said, those comments are the comments of somebody living under a rock.

    A normal person with a semblance of common sense is a bit careful.

    As I've already said people like you are the polar opposite but the very same as the person still wearing a mask walking down the street.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    So what if it was covid or not? What do you want us to do about it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    covid is over, back to 2019 standards we go, no ifs, buts or maybes.

    Polar opposites doesn't even come close to how I feel.... I'm the other side of the galaxy from someone who voluntarily wears a mask or pays any kind of heed to the covid worriers. I'm not under any rock, I know exactly what I'm doing.

    Don't stand near me if you're afraid of the covid, and thankfully it looks like that's the way most of the population thinks now as well.

    I didn't think they would shake the restrictions off, I genuinely thought the population would cling on to masks and distancing, but thankfully that got ditched pretty quick by almost everyone except for a few diehards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,723 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I'm saying that covid is still a concern when stuff like this is still happening.

    We don't yet know if there any long term affects from contracting Covid. We won't know that for maybe another five years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,723 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I can guarantee that most people are not like you. People are certainly more relaxed but not as careless as you.

    I still wear a mask in crowded areas. I haven't had Covid yet and I'll try to avoid it for as long as I can. I'm not going overboard about things. I don't wear a mask in a shop where I'm not on top of other people. I probably put a mask.on twice per week at most. I hate wearing them.

    I'm not at all confident that I'll avoid covid but having gone this long without contracting it I'll try to not get it by just putting on a mask in crowded areas.

    I hope there's no long term affects from covid but as I said in my previous we are about five years away from knowing that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    I'm not careless, just normal, not the new normal... normal normal.

    As for people still being careful, you're wrong. A few are for sure, but go to Dublin Airport, a pub, or a match in Croker, and you'll see that almost no one cares.

    I hate the masks, the restrictions, and everything they stand for, wear a mask if you want, but covid will get you sometime. Why put yourself through even an hour of misery by wearing a mask if you hate them?

    Chances are if you catch covid that you'll be unwell for a few days and be grand again.

    I took my chances with covid, I got it eventually, but it didn't floor me, and I came out the far side intact.

    If anything, catching it reinforced my resistance to the pointless restrictions that were shoved down our throats, some of which could be getting shoved down our throats again....

    Months of mask wearing and lockdown for "just that"?

    I'll leave the mask off, thank you very much, life is miserable enough without thinking "what if", wearing a mask "just in case".

    I'll take my chances, and whatever happens, happens. But like I said, it's best not to stand near me if you're afraid of catching covid, because I'm not.

    Normal normal is the way to go, "careful" and the "greater good" are on the other side of the galaxy, light years away from me and many, many others too.

    Post edited by DLink on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,471 ✭✭✭MOH


    Why would you still think at this stage that a mask helps prevent you contracting Covid?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,137 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    Why do you say we are about five years away from knowing the long term effects of Covid? Given that we've known about this virus for 2.5 years (and counting), that seems pretty long term to me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭walus


    Sorry to hear about your niece. For what is worth my son was very sick with flu when he was 2 or 3, and after 6 weeks he was a shadow of himself. It took him the bones of 6 months to recover with various coughs and sniffles that dragged on for months. Would anyone give a toss about him back then? I don't think so. It is a part and parcel of childhood. Well, at least it used to be.

    Post edited by walus on

    ”Where’s the revolution? Come on, people you’re letting me down!”



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