Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

From completely agreeing with the scientifice data and analysis of the vaccines to this when you found out it proved your fantasies wrong.

I am unsurprised :)

Millions of people are alive today that would have died from COVID because of the vaccines.

This is irrefutable.

Spin away again little lamb! (or obsess, whichever floats your boat).

Ah, the walk back begins when challenged. First it was that the vaccines were failure. Now you talk about cases of vaccine failure when you know you can't defend your original claim.

This is not a failed vaccine and anyone who makes the claim, without qualification, that it doesn't work or is a failure does not do so on the basis of evidence.

"For the outcome of severe COVID-19, vaccine effectiveness waned from 89% (82 to 93; p<0·001) at 15–30 days to 64% (44 to 77; p<0·001) from day 121 onwards....

For protection against infection Pfizer:

mRNA-1273, with a vaccine effectiveness of 96% (94 to 97; p<0·001) at 15–30 days and 59% (18 to 79; p=0·012) from day 181 onwards.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-67362200089-7/fulltext

They're not working, they still claim the first two shorts prevent against severe disease and hospitalisation and that protection is still great, yet out of the other side or their mouth we've Lucy Jessop telling people to get a 3rd booster to get the same protection.

I'm sorry but that's bonkers, the first two either work or they don't, I've not seen any admission by the HSE that the initial shots don't prevent against severe disease and hospitalisation infact they're still encouraging people to come forward for their first two.

Revisionism, they've went to far, it's damage control now but they're making a mess of that too by still pushing.

You've been shown multiple times where we were told you won't catch, carry or spread the virus if you take these jabs. You continue to deny this, then you shifted the goal posts and asked where a medical company said this, then you were showed that Pfizer said it, then it was only symptomatic spread you guys said it worked for but it didn't work for that either.

Then you claim it's us misrepresenting things.

Every single thing you've posted has been proven irrefutably wrong :) You are batting 0 so far and arguing with the umpire about what constitutes a baseball while striking out. The depths you have fallen to after starting off pretending the doctors couldn't answer questions to full blown anti-vax spin conspiracist doing drive by postings.

(though at least you haven't fallen to the depraved depths of spreading fear about pregnancy like some others).

I never claimed it causes news readers and athletes to collapse, didn't mention it could be related to a drop in birth rates.

I did say it affected womens periods that's another fact your trying to whitewash, I didn't pull you up on it as I know your just trolling you couldn't be that detached from women, maybe you are as you refer to them as people when talking about menstruations.

You've been presented with experts and evidence all along the way, you choose to either ignore them, rubbish the sources or twist it in such a way nobody knows what the hell your trying to say. That's all in your handbook so I mainly ignore such fudging of reality.

I guarantee that if you provided facts and evidence they prove random people getting clots is due to receiving the vaccine, people would agree. However, no one is able to do so. The ball is in your court. Go get the evidence.