Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

I know, it's handy for getting the pony to drop in for some.

Better to have a healthy immune system that hasn't been tinkered with or turned into a photo copier and firing out all these replicated spike proteins anytime you've a common cold.

White blood cells create an immune response, imagine if it was reprogrammed for lashing out one response. That would be scary.

Can you prove that nobody whatsoever said that. Because all you have to do is google it. It's quite simple.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that COVID-19 vaccines are effective. But no vaccines are 100% effective at preventing illness. "There will be a small percentage of fully vaccinated people who still get sick, are hospitalized, or die from COVID-19," the CDC said.

This aged well.

This is what

This is what Professor of Immunology Paul Moynagh said recently.

Note diminished returns.

The variant that has constituted most of the wave that we've just seen is BA5. RNA vaccines don't do a good job fighting infection, so should we be looking at other vaccines, other technologies?

Note where he says , should we be looking at other vaccines, other technologies.

He also said, With regard to people not taking up the vaccine, Prof Moynagh urged caution: "We need to be careful and humble in terms of what we expect of these vaccines.

"The other problem is, do we continue to vaccinate with this original vaccine or should we look at updated forms of the vaccine?

So it's obvious that they're still vaccinating people with the original vaccines, and they're not being updated.

Unlike the flu vaccine which is updated, they're boosting people with the original vaccines.

Lockdowns had a negative effect on society as a whole.

Yet there was people dancing around the headlands, piers, beaches and landmarks doing a dance.

And they were applauded for it, dancing on people's misery. Supposedly it was for people's morale. Talk about being lead by example.

Dissonance was a big thing back then. It show's how people can be told that it's for your own good.

Mind you, we were all worried in the beginning. I remember being one of the only ones left in work, myself and the tree surgeon while a lot of them scattered like flies. I had the job of locking up the estate and setting timers in the glasshouses, and making sure seedlings and rooted cuttings, and bromeliad collection were protected. Luckily I held onto my job. Didn't have to work from home.

Hearing the numbers being manipulated daily on the news, and contradictions was what made me start to question things. People dying from covid or with covid was confusing.

Mind you the first wave was scary and thankfully I didn't loose anyone close.

I did say I'd take a vaccine at the start if one was created by but I decided to hedge my bets on being one of the percentage of people who'll survive if I caught covid. I was right.

Took me nearly 2 and a half years before it finally cornered me. All my friends and family members who were vaccinated caught it early this year and late last year. They were confused about that, but I wasn't.

It went to vaccinate yourself to protect others to, whether you're vaccinated or not you'll more than likely catch it and other's will have protection from getting really sick.

See how everything was watered down. If they told everyone at the start clearly. If you're taking this vaccine it might not work or stop you from catching COVID. It will probably lesson the symptoms, but we cannot guarantee either way.

But no, that wasn't what happened.

At present we're with omnicron, yes you're right.

So can we conclude that for healthy people the vaccines or boosters,one of the same really at present are as much use as a chocolate fireplace, but for immunocompromised people and the elderly it's wise to take it.

On your last paragraph you mentioned severe covid, well as it stands severe covid isn't impacting like it did before.

The vaccines still probably give a limited protection to people, but the cure and the cause are almost on equal footing as far as vaccines and your natural immunity pushing it back .

At least it's not as bad as it was. So if it keeps on mutating more and more it'll be probably go from a roaring lion to a quite purr....

So it's all good now again. And hopefully those sites and people suggesting that the vaccines are wiping people's immunity are false.

It's a very chicken and the egg coming first observation.