What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Quin_Dub · 25-07-2022 01:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385203#Comment_119385203

Not a chance in hell he'd run as an Independent. He'd have to spend his own money , plus he knows that he simply could not win as a "3rd" candidate.

He needs the "GOP 1st" voters , there just aren't anything like enough "Trump 1st" voters.

Plus once he was on the outside, the GOP would stop providing air-cover and everyone would happily testify/talk to whoever would listen about his crimes.

Snake Plisken · 25-07-2022 01:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385046#Comment_119385046

Who would that be? Care to name that poster?

Penn · 25-07-2022 01:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385360#Comment_119385360

Yeah but you then have to blanace all of that against his ego, which could outweigh all that logic.

Glencarraig · 25-07-2022 02:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119384430#Comment_119384430

One of the best I heard about QAnon was............."QAnon.......Scientology for Hillbillies"

Quin_Dub · 25-07-2022 02:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385370#Comment_119385370

His utterly undiluted terror of losing will win in any battle against his ego.

His ego would absolutely not survive losing a second time.

In the scenario where he is squeezed out by the GOP far better for his ego to slink back to Mar a Lago and blame it all on a deep state conspiracy.

That way he can live in his created safe space where if he'd been "allowed" to run he would have won in a landslide and crushed all before him thereby allowing him to keep his fragile ego intact.

everlast75 · 25-07-2022 02:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385367#Comment_119385367

I think any poster who defends that despicable lying agitator would not be happy.

How do you feel about it, seeing as you care enough to comment?

Faugheen · 25-07-2022 02:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385360#Comment_119385360

I could absolutely see him doing it and threatening the GOP that they won't win if he runs, so they have to run him.

Then he'd try beat the GOP, showing that he was the most winningest candidate all along and that the GOP not choosing him was a witch hunt.

Quin_Dub · 25-07-2022 02:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385472#Comment_119385472

I'd agree that he will absolutely use it as a threat during the primary phase , but if he doesn't get past the Primary I just can't see him having the discipline and structure to run a successful independent campaign and like I said the terror of failure will stop him and him being able to "hurl from the ditch" and claim that he "would have won" and "was the greatest" etc. would be fair better for his ego stroking.

He doesn't actually want the job he just wants to feel awesome.

Penn · 25-07-2022 02:26PM

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I think if DeSantis won the primary, at that stage Trump wouldn't be able to bully his way in. DeSantis would be the nominee.

I'm sure the GOP realise that pretty much all Trump fans would also vote for DeSantis simply because they're so anti-Dems/Left. But the election would likely come down to moderate/independent voters, and the GOP risk losing a lot of Independents who might not vote if Trump is the candidate.

Snake Plisken · 25-07-2022 02:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385552#Comment_119385552

Thanks you've just answered my question for me "son" as for conviction or whatever you posted I've no opinion as ive no interest

everlast75 · 25-07-2022 02:51PM

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Frankly, I think he is so easily manipulated, that one comment or tweet from someone like Nancy Pelosi would make him declare. He wouldn't be able to help himself. She triggers him like few others

Quin_Dub · 25-07-2022 03:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385646#Comment_119385646

Oh no doubt the Democrats would love him to declare now, before the mid-terms.

It allows them to draw attention away from their failings and shift it back to Trump, which may motivate their voters to come out on election day to "keep him out" as it were.

Trump announcing is a gift tot he Democrats for the mid-terms and the GOP will try everything to stop him.

The GOP have no real control over Trump so he'll do what he wants however.

briany · 25-07-2022 03:20PM

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I don't know if there are any hillbillies into QAnon - there probably are - but if it were only them into it, it'd be lot less of a concern and something contained on the fringes. The worrying thing about QAnon has been the range of people it has sucked in. Otherwise functional adults have begun to believe a really bizarre fantasy. There will be the wags out there saying that this applies to organised religion as well, but at least organised religion has a long history, an established role in society and a contribution to philosophical thought. QAnon, on the other hand, sounds like the disjointed ramblings of a person with schizophrenia.

Igotadose · 25-07-2022 03:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385780#Comment_119385780

Dunno, it's 'social media scientology' - a safe space for people with a few screws loose who are easily gulled. Scientology has always been about persuading the dim by providing a community of fellow dimbulbs.

Quin_Dub · 25-07-2022 03:30PM

The more concerning thing is how much the "Christian Nationalist" piece has come to the fore.

It was always there in the GOP (certainly since the Reagan era) but it's really moving front and centre now.

Multiple people are openly calling for the Government to be "faith based" and the changes to the Supreme court drive that too.

It should be deeply worrying for everyone.

everlast75 · 25-07-2022 03:53PM

Here is what Trump is handing out at his rallies...

(Even though he said on Friday he finished the wall)

TheIrishGrover · 25-07-2022 04:05PM

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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385360#Comment_119385360

THAT is what the GQP fear the most. It's why they should have immediately thrown him under the bus after he lost the election. They then had the opportunity to shift from the GQP back to the GOP. Had 2 years to distance themselves from the conspiracy theorists and all his... fans.

But they didn't and now that is their nightmare situation. If they p1ss him off he would run as independent. Simply to screw them over. No other reason. In his mind it would be: "I made them, I can break them. Let's show them how powerful I am. I will DESTROY them". And that would split the GQP/GOP vote and guarantee a Dem landslide.

Plus, it wouldn't be his own money. It would be funded by all his Nigerian Prince letters.

BigRighysteria · 25-07-2022 04:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385903#Comment_119385903

60% of Americans are concerned about illegall immigration and the states most effected by illegall immigration being Red states, I'm not sure where your beef lies???

Quin_Dub · 25-07-2022 04:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385951#Comment_119385951

The point being made is that last week he said he "finished the wall" and now he's saying if elected he will "build the wall"

Which is it ????

Igotadose · 25-07-2022 04:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385999#Comment_119385999

It's Schrodingers wall to keep out Schrodingers immigrants.

Quin_Dub · 25-07-2022 04:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385950#Comment_119385950

I just don't see Trump swallowing a loss just to spite the GOP.

He could never accept the loss even if it was to burn down his enemies

I don't care who you are, a 3rd party candidate will never win a US Presidential Election so for Trump it's either GOP candidacy or nothing as it's the only thing that gives him anything like a shot at winning.

everlast75 · 25-07-2022 04:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385951#Comment_119385951

I completely understand why anyone might be concerned with illegal immigration.

My "beef" is that the republicans spout absolute bollox instead of providing facts.

The reason I know they spout bollox is because a lot of it is repeated here by Trump supporters.

briany · 25-07-2022 04:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385950#Comment_119385950

They were never in a position to throw Trump under the bus. Trump is stronger than the Republican party. It can't have escaped anyone's attention that anyone in the GOP who stands up to him are those who were about to retire or else just get pushed to the margins of the party. Then there were those who condemned him but then cowardly came slinking into his orbit when they realised being a Trumpist would help their career. Plus the new additions who are as crazy as Trump is. It's Trump's party either for as long as he's alive or else until some societal shift that I can't foresee.

Itssoeasy · 25-07-2022 05:02PM

https://twitter.com/repelaineluria/status/1551568001836670976?s=21&t=LguQjLT6dV2dHOYhH91jDg

Not great video for Donald trump and in particular his own edit to remarks his team had prepared for him to say. I don’t know if this helps in a legal way but it’s very interesting what’s is crossed out, in particular the part where it said “you don’t represent me” and the other parts that are crossed out. I’m surprised that someone who we know doesn’t put stuff in writing much edited a statement and there’s a copy of it.

TheIrishGrover · 25-07-2022 05:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119386103#Comment_119386103

Well, that's what I meant. They had an opportunity to highlight him and his cronies and say this is not what the GOP is. On Jan 6. But they made their bed.

Snake Plisken · 25-07-2022 05:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119385903#Comment_119385903

Looks good as does his other policies on that list although I'm thinking Big Ron might be my choice when the time comes 👍

Leroy42 · 25-07-2022 05:32PM

The GOP is not going to pick anyone else but Trump.

The guy has been fighting for 2 years about a national election, he isn't going to just accept that a caucus and ballot of GOP members weren't rigged if he doesn't win.

He will completely drag the GOP down into a turf war if they even try to not pick him

Quin_Dub · 25-07-2022 06:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119386293#Comment_119386293

How do they "Look good"?

How exactly does he plan to do any of these things?

Those aren't polices , they are sound bites or if we're being really charitable at best they are aspirations.

Given that this is basically the same list he had 5+ years ago and which he failed miserably to provide any kind of plan for doing any of it , what makes you think that he's magically going to come up with something this around?

duploelabs · 25-07-2022 07:33PM

Remember a poster here said we're going to get testimony from the secret service regarding Cassidy Hutchinson's allegations?

My how the turntables....

https://www.salon.com/2022/07/25/secret-agents-tried-to-torpedo-hutchinson-testimony-lawyer-up-refuse-to-testify-panel/

briany · 25-07-2022 07:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119386255#Comment_119386255

But they didn't have the authority to say that. In order to have authority you need some sort of consent from your people and Republican voters were largely not prepared to consent where an anti-Trump stance was concerned.

If we look at Liz Cheney, a Republican chairing the Jan 6th hearings, she's facing a loss in her upcoming Congressional primary. And I don't think she's the only one who's faced the primary threat for going against Trump. Other prominent Republicans who condemned Trump have left politics altogether or announced that they wouldn't be standing for re-election.

The Republican party hasn't been able to offer a saner alternative to Trump who could take his base away. The best they could do would be to try and plamás Trump into endorsing a candidate of theirs and have him agree not to run again, but in that event it would still remain Trump's political party because he'd be the one they have to keep sweet.

But this is all the Republican party's own fault. They created this monster through nurturing a cult of ignorance and hatred with the Tea Party movement, conservative talk radio and social media. Not much sympathy now that they no longer can control that monster.

What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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