Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

This again? I'm still waiting on your response to my only question to you from the other day.

I see you have time to reply to others

I'm open to the possibility of the vaccine harming people, but nobody has shown it to be the case.

The only links that have shown serious harm are from sudo science websites designed to trick people into giving them money.

Whenever I find myself in a position where I'm not all that knowledgeable on a subject, I use this easy method:

Who is on the 'NO' side?

Who is on the 'YES' side?

Which of those two groups seem more reasonable to me?

In this case, the NO vaccine side are going for 'Mark of the Beast', 'China engineered a virus to kill people', quickly changing to 'China engineered a virus, so they could engineer a vaccine, to kill people', and of course the classic '5G/Nanobots/Star Trek/Tracking/Barcodes etc.' We also have people who stand to gain from us. We also have that tricky obstacle that nobody can overcome - How do SO many people keep this plan a secret?

On the YES side, we have 99% of Doctors, Medical Professors, people with nothing to gain from us, majority of the population, immunologists, virologists, most average Joes in the street.

Makes my choices pretty easy, and has served me well 99% of the time.

WTAF? Ban people from the Internet? Srsly you think that's a thing?

Go have lunch. The psilocybin mushrooms probably need some attention in your glasshouse.

No, again. I said:

"analyse individual cases"

I did not say:

"analyse the data"

Just like KM you are again desperately trying to misrepresent what I said. Why can't either of you debate honestly without resorting to these tactics?

Then tell me what the point of VAERS is. Why would you create a reporting system and then completey ignore it.

It tells a horror story. That's why you don't like it. Simply rubbishing it and denigrating it is not any kind of argument. Simply brushing aside anything that does not agree with your argument is a poor approach.

Why do you keep referring to the links (which I am duty bound to provide) that I post here as "dumps". Do you honestly believe that that is a clever argument?

I get them on the internet. That's where they are. Examine the URL. Read it aloud a few times. I don't find them down the back of a sofa!

If you continue with this ridiculous nonsense you are going on ignore.

Argue the content not the platform.

Evidence they are being completely ignored. Zero.

So nobody can tell you because the premise of your question is baseless and without evidence. And no grabbing stuff from garbage dump sources with no actual evidence just rumours and pretend ignorance 'asking questions' isn't evidence either. They are garbage dumps because they have put out so much rumours and 'questions' that are eventually debunked they don't even blink they just move onto the next one. And the people who lap it up keep lapping it up no matter how much time one of their pieces is debunked and discredited.

You can't argue the content because the content isn't here.

That is just make believe, no rational person thinks about medicine or treatments they took later unless there's some strange agenda, it's just not a normal thing people do.

VAERS is designed to capture patterns of abnormalities, there are no patterns causing any concern, hence no danger issues.

It also captures data for the non-mRNA vaccines (Sinovac/pharm, Novavax, AZ, J&J) and isn't seeing any discrepancies between them (barring the very rare blood clot issue causing by the AdenoVector vaccines).

If there was something being covered up, why is all the date public? VAERS and it's equivalent have been around publicly available for many years.

It's been debated hugely in the medical industry with vast amount of non-pharma based papers written about them, there's no "it's funny how" here, it's just a blatantly untrue statement to make.

But I (and others undoubtedly) will notice that you've changed from making claims without backup to making claims about the absence of data, likely to avoid having to post any sources (and it's always suspicious when someone says "I'm not bothering to post sources" when they don't post 1 single source).

Has there been a single debate on RTE or BBC from a qualified virologist or immunologist who has questioned the vaccine. I've never seen one.

Anyone who questions it is immediately cancelled. You do realise that early on doctors who advised there patients against taking it were immediately struck off? Without even a hearing. Why is that? Well that certainly sent out a strong signal to any other doctor who was at all dubious.

The problem is not the people asking the questions (I see you're against that sort of thing). The problem is the people who go along with everything they read, see and hear without asking questions.

"I am the science", "the science is settled" "take this and don't ask questions"

That's not science, it's propaganda.

Shame on you for trying to shame people who are curious and sceptical.