CLERICAL OFFICER 2022

Avenger2020 · 13-07-2022 10:10PM

It is supposed to be yearly but it is actually based on performance. Managers are starting to hold back on giving increments if performance is in anyway poor. Any excuse for poor performance.

furrybones · 13-07-2022 10:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119333665#Comment_119333665

My experience of the CS has been nothing but good and I have the most supportive managers (HEO, AP, PO, and Assist Sec Gen!). I progressed quickly from CO to EO through these campaigns and was lucky enough to stay in the same Dept throughout. Yes I can see the cracks, and there are those who would trample over you to get ahead, but you'll have those people in the private sector too.

HOWEVER, I do agree with you in that there is no accountability for senior civil servants and, yes, a large number of them can't do the simplest of tasks - but they don't need to be able to do those tasks, that's what CO's and EO's are for. Project delays and budget overruns are par for the course in any organisation, public or private, especially in the past few years. There is also a lot of political interference which undermines the work of Departments.

While I haven't personally witnessed any bully tactics I have heard the horror stories - everything from CO's bullying other CO's to PO's making their CO's and EO's lives hell and nothing is ever done about it except moving staff around. Thankfully in my Dept these cases are few and far between. The culture of the Dept you are assigned to has a lot to do with how you are treated - new people are seen as a threat to the status quo. There are many great departments out there in which you are encouraged to progress, and actively supported when you apply for promotion. A lot of people going into the CS are not doing it for the salary, which we know isn't great at CO level, they are doing it for job security in an unstable and precarious jobs market - which is something you won't get in the private sector.

Emma2019 · 13-07-2022 10:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119330114#Comment_119330114

Sounds like you're in a crap department or there's more to your story.

Nobody I know in CS across 5 different departments is having the issues you describe.

Also, it's incredibly hard to not give you your increment. You'd need to be seriously non-performing. Last person I heard of that that was considered was literally falling asleep at their desk and was on a Performance Improvement Plan.

Promotion is mostly via open competition? Knowing people is no advantage until potentially you start hitting PO grades.

megger · 14-07-2022 03:07PM

Anyone know if there’s any chance of working from home as Garda Civilian? Not based in Phoenix Park if that makes any difference

lcstress2012 · 14-07-2022 03:41PM

Anyone have any tips for Dublin and Dun Laoghaire Education and Training Board clerical officer grade 3?

howareyakid · 14-07-2022 03:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119331221#Comment_119331221

I filled up location preference for Sligo yesterday. OOM is mid 400s.

WHIreland · 14-07-2022 10:33PM

Going to be honest with this thread with all the negativity and promoting the private sector.. yes the wages are better but employment law is overlooked 70% of the time, no paid leave (sick leave, mat leave etc) and bully tactics the same if not worse. I will never return to the private sector again, to the point I took a 15k decrease (long term nearly 30k) to join Clerical Officers and I'm currently in the EO comp too. I fully expect the same clique stuff, but my current temp role since Jan, the benefits alone I have taken advantage of outweigh my experience in the private sector, I have overcome a lot of demons as a result of my experience in the private sector I'm still not right from.

So everyone's experience is valid, but let's not act like the grass is greener privately. Job security is worth so much in the current economy. If your not happy leave your job, lives way too short to be miserable!

Dublin.85 · 15-07-2022 01:39AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119337097#Comment_119337097

I was given a location today for a Garda station in Dublin. Curious too if it's Flexi time / option to work from home

Dublin.85 · 15-07-2022 01:46AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119339063#Comment_119339063

I agree.. I'm leaving private sector for public. I've been in same retail job for 12 years. (Total of 20 years in retail) It's such a toxic environment. Same dead end job with nowhere to go with little to no pay rise. Very little flexibily. No proper time off over Christmas.. I'm taking a pay cut for civil service which is hopefully more flexible and better for my mental health. With potential for promotions, which I don't have in my current job.

Banana Republic 1 · 15-07-2022 05:51AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119330114#Comment_119330114

Which department is that

carolluke1 · 15-07-2022 05:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470910#Comment_118470910

I would think so!

Banana Republic 1 · 15-07-2022 09:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119332078#Comment_119332078

Ya thats bollox if ever I’ve heard it

slick_rick88 · 17-07-2022 10:43AM

Hi,

I am new to here.

Was wondering if anyone could help me out.

So I got my email from public jobs the other week stating "Clerical Officer 2022 Kerry Batch 3 Location Preference"

I picked my 3 preferences of towns and submitted my form.

But I was wondering is it a good thing to get this notification of location preferences?

Thank you.

bradley linemihler · 17-07-2022 03:52PM

Does anyone have any idea how long after a successful stage 2 interview you would be waiting before you would get an offer? would it be around 6 weeks or so?

Dublin.85 · 17-07-2022 05:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119349239#Comment_119349239

Yes mine was about 6 weeks until the clearance stage started. That took about 3-4 weeks until I was told location and start date.

bradley linemihler · 17-07-2022 07:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119349672#Comment_119349672

Just one more thing as Columbo would say! - I was working as a TCO up until april but took a permanent job somewhere else as it was permanent . I have great references from my TCO roles but will they ask for a reference from my current employer..Im sure they wont be too happy if Im leaving for a civil service job after just a few months!? Thats what worries me..

Dublin.85 · 17-07-2022 08:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350246#Comment_119350246

On the form, you have to give dates and employer contact details. Did you put down your current employer on application form or where you TCO at the time? I'm in the same job 12 years so I only put that down. Maybe coz you already worked for civil service they may not bother with a reference from anyone else. I'm not too sure.

bradley linemihler · 17-07-2022 08:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350525#Comment_119350525

Thanks I was a TCO at the time..so I will just give them my TCO references which lasted from march 2020 to april 2022

Dublin.85 · 17-07-2022 08:41PM

Yeah I'd say that you be safe enough doing that. Unlikely they'd question the gap from April. Best of luck giving in your notice with the new crowd.

lcstress2012 · 17-07-2022 09:01PM

Have an interview for clerical office role with Education and Training Board (ETB) this week. Can someone who works in civil service or went for an interview please private message me with potential interview questions and tips/advice? Have been working with daa Dublin airport for the last 7 years so want out of shift work!

Nigel Fairservice · 17-07-2022 09:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119350705#Comment_119350705

Just so you are aware the ETB is not civil service. Civil service CO interviews are all carried out by the Public Appointments Service and broadly follow a similar format. I think the ETBs do all their recruitment individually so not sure how similar they are to civil service ones.