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Board of Directors not putting in an objection letter

  • 16-07-2022 6:38am
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    Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭


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    Post edited by Runster on


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,385 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Did anyone attempt to call an EGM to discuss the matter and compel the Board of Directors to submit a planning observation? I'm not really sure the Board could justify making an observation without it being discussed and voted on. Being devils advocate - how do you know all owners feel the same as you? The Board could just as easily be opening themsleves up to accusations that they are submitting an observation that doesn't represent the will of its members in the absence of a vote.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭Caranica


    Did you want the board to submit one to avoid paying the observation fee? If it matters to you, don't rely on others. Your voice carries equal weight



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,973 ✭✭✭Marcusm


    Planning objections are more appropriate for a residents association rather than an OMC as there can be a conflict between what certain residents want and what is in the collective best interests. In the absence of active engagement by members of the OMC, the directors thereof would put themselves at risk if they made objections which were not sanctioned by a general meeting. Some OMCs are DACs which have limited powers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭Runster


    The more people involved the better and a board complaining would have been great support.



  • Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭Runster


    I can tell you now everyone would have been glad of the support. There would've been no conflict of interest from anyone except the corrupt board members



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  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭AnnieinDundrum


    The omc has an obligation to its members. A resolution at a meeting compelling them would have worked. They can’t go on a request from one member, I assume you are a member of this company and elect the directors?

    our local residents association put in an objection to a local development without consulting the members and all hell broke loose. It wasn’t that people supported the development but a member can’t act unilaterally.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,993 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    It would still be a single submission/observation though, the same as if you put in one yourself. As others have said, your fellow owners may not have the same opinion as you, if you feel strongly, organise the members to hold an EGM to discuss it. Otherwise, just submit your own, it should not carry less weight than one submitted by the OMC.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭Xterminator


    OP - you seem to think yours is the only possible opinion. You seem to think the OMC, Directors & BOM all share this opinion and should follow your instructions. I love that you have divined the reason the board were not in lockstep with you, obviously it had to be political after all you possess the only valid opinion!

    You have every right to object, yourself.

    Please give the same respect to other people who are not of the same opinion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭Runster


    Yeah sure everyone loves having drug dealing and noise pollution and high rise apartments next to their complex.

    There's nothing better than having privacy issues, parties and noise on work nights and a complex with no night security to manage several 100 lodgers who don't seem to get out of their environment other than to go to work.


    Cop on, anyone not objecting to that either doesn't give a sh%t because theyre a landlord or has some affiliation with the other complex or is holding a grudge against residents in favour of objecting.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,090 ✭✭✭markpb


    The role of the OMC is to facilitate the ownership and maintenance of the common areas, nothing more and nothing less. It’s not a representative body and even if it was, it has absolutely no extra bearing on planning observations.

    The role of the MA is to support the running of the company in line with the directors wishes. Of course they’re not going to get involved, that’s like asking your window cleaner or plumber to object on your behalf.

    If you want to object, do so. If you want to object as a group (possibly sharing the cost of hiring a planning professional), set up a group and do so. But the job of the OMC is to keep the building insured and the walls painted, not to proxy your conspiracy theories about new developments and future parties or litter.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭Runster


    I'm talking about the board of directors and their response not the role of the OMC.



  • Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭Runster


    No it wouldn't, the crowd sitting on the board have two residents who did nothing plus their partner.

    Then the vulture fund crowd also sitting on the board come from a company with lots of tricks up their sleaves and I'm sure they could have even given us some advice on what objections hold the most weight and how to go about it.

    They don't care, if there's no money to be made they don't care.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,090 ✭✭✭markpb


    The board of directors are the board of the OMC.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,993 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    Runster, the OMC submission would be one submission, not 100, it would be one, the same as if you yourself put in one. The reason the vulture fund aren’t interested is because it won’t affect their business, therefore they don’t care. So either man up, or let it go.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,385 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    You're pretty much highlighting the predicament that you're placing the board of the OMC in to be honest. The OMC - Owners Managment Company - has to take into account the views of all owners. Yeah, some of the owners are probably landlords and not owner occupiers. They have as much of a say in the running of the OMC as you have.

    You can't really expect the board to go off and make a submission on behalf of the entire OMC unless an EGM has been called and it has been voted on in some manner or another.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭Xterminator


    Cop on, anyone not objecting to that either doesn't give a sh%t because theyre a landlord or has some affiliation with the other complex or is holding a grudge against residents in favour of objecting.

    Did you read anyone's reply and not dismiss it instantly? now you have deleted you original post i surmise you are wearing a shocked pikachu face that everyone didn't affirm your unfounded assumptions led to only one possible conclusion.

    object yourself as everyone advised. get any like minded residents to do the same. but don't assume everyone with a contradictory opinion is acting in bad faith, or has grudges etc. Its not a healthy worldview- to assume their are all in cahoots against you.



  • Registered Users Posts: 791 ✭✭✭CreadanLady


    Runster, you really haven't a clue have you?

    If you want to object, then go ahead and do so. However, your objection must be based around the development being incompatible with the County or City Development Plan in some respect. Rambling outraged "not in my back yard" type objections hold no weight whatsoever.

    The MFV Creadan Lady is a mussel dredger from Dunmore East.



  • Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭Runster


    Your comment might have been welcome but your absolutely abnoxious condescending start is so typical of a keyboard warrior who is just out to aggravate. FK OFF



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,082 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble




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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,090 ✭✭✭markpb


    The same applies when people living in houses object to apartments as if they’ll be inhabited by a different species instead of other human beings.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,082 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Ohhh ... but LOITERING ... in their own neighbourhood!!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 791 ✭✭✭CreadanLady


    Honest to god. The only one with an obnoxious attitude here is yourself. You didn't get told what you wanted to hear and so everyone else is wrong and you threw your toys out of the pram.

    People gave their advice, and there seems to be general agreement from posters that it is not the management company's business to make submissions on planning applications. You can make a submission yourself if you feel strongly, or maybe pursuade a few others in the complex to make submissions.

    You can take the advice or you can leave it.

    The MFV Creadan Lady is a mussel dredger from Dunmore East.



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