Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

True but there’s a significant increases in welfare shoppers internationally it appears

Q1. Foundation level maths. John is driving a train which leaves Houston station at 9am. He travels at an average speed of 50mph. His next stop is 100 miles away. What time does he get there at:

xxxxxxl's answer. I know someone called John. He can't drive a train. Even if he could drive a train he is on the dole and doesn't get up that early. We first need to buy him an alarm clock. And, don't forget, the train is painted blue. It shouldn't be blue. John is also gluten intolerant and the price of diesel has gone up massively in the last 12 months.

You appear to have had a revelation and answered your own question!!!

Thread is about refugees from Ukraine. Not refugees of unknown origin. You will have to start a different thread for that

Yes. It is a simple point. At what cutoff do you decide that the level of fraud is so much that we stop the system entirely? There is a point at which you have to do that.

If you know that there is some fraud, and you persist with the scheme - regardless of what the scheme is, asylum, dole, PUP, grants - then you are implicity agreeing that there is some level of fraud which you are prepared to accept as a cost of delivering the benefit to others

No you didn't. Because you got confused, I even explained if to you further. You start with a million billiion people. Do all your checks. Get rid of the 90% that you are on about. At the very end of doing everything that you can, you still have X left. You know that 10 of those are genuine. X-10 of them are not. And you can't tell which ones are which from within that group. All the rest have been processed.

Your answer to that problem is find out which ones are genuine. That you cannot determine that is the given problem in the question.

Maybe an actual legitimate refugee fleeing a warzone?

What are you complaining about here on this thread. Are you complaining about Ukrainian refugees (title of thread - implicit in which is that we have determined they are Ukrainain), or are you complaining about non-Ukrainian refugees or are you complaining that there is no war in Ukraine?

Not being able to determine their own immigration rules is the main reason why the UK left the EU

camps at Calais filled with illegal economic migrants waiting to break into truck trailers to get to the UK was the straw that broke the camels back .

Unless more robust immigration laws are drafted and harder enforcement is in place the farcical influx will simply increase .

The problem is the government never declared from the start about this. They announced anyone can come here providing they have a Ukrainian passport and have lived in the country during the start of the war.

I can’t see them now changing their rules as will look bad to the EU

cant upset the EU

This government will go down in history and generations will be reading and learning from their idiotic policies.

wose than De Valera and that’s saying something

Discussed numerous times a Ukrainian Passport is not required to open a Basic Bank account for those who've been admitted to Ireland. Some banks do require it if opening an account on a smart phone / online or not face to face application. Infact one bank I took the time to check but I'm aware of others , PTSB requires NO official ID .Try that as an Irish Citizen or indeed any other Citizen and see how fast your told to take a Hike

Because the truth would render your “asylum” shopper jaunt invalid!