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Summer transfer thread 2022

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,552 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    Barca should'nt be allowed to spend that kind of money being over a billion in debt, someone needs to reign them in before it's too late.

    No point putting a salary cap in place if you don't force them to pay off some of the debt capital.

    Having said that it might already be too late, they have sold a decent percentage of their future TV rights, they are now kicking the can down the road and it would'nt surprise me if they go bust in the next few years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,841 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Surely someone will see jail for mismanagement of their finances, what a pyramid scheme, selling their future earnings/viability.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,552 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    Not sure i've heard anyone from within Barca at all concerned with the financial going's on?

    Are the fans not concerned their club might cease to exist shortly?

    I would'nt think buying Barca is all that attractive of a proposition if the club simply think some oil state will buy the club and wipe the debt, the return on investment would simply be far too small for an outlay that would probably be 6 or 7 Billion?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,244 ✭✭✭This is it


    You'd think some players would be worried about ever seeing their wages. Crazy amount of players coming in, some on free transfers so likely very high wages. Apparently strugg to pay Messi and the same for Pique and FDJ? Madness.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,140 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Isn't there a rule whereby you can be suspended from European competition and signing new players if you default on payments for football related payments? I know in the UK that any outstanding transfer fees are handled first before anyone else is paid if a team goes bust,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,109 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Don't think the fan ownership model would ever sell up to an oil state anyway... I think their plan is more so to buy time. Selling 25% of future TV rights in the hopes those rights will continue to rise at a rate whereby 75% will still be more than enough for them. They do still have massive revenue streams... but it's all a big risk. They basically need another cash explosion to occur, like the European Super League was meant to be.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Hugo Ekitike whose club and agent had told him they had agreed a fee with Newcastle and he was going to join Newcastle however he refused saying he didn't want to join Newcastle has now signed for PSG the club he did want to join for about 10m less than Newcastle offered for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,753 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Derby couldn't pay their players, got point deductions and subsequently relegated. Bury ceased operating due to financial worries.

    Barca clearly can't pay their players either if they are taking pay cuts and have to sell in order to register new players (and look to be baulking on significant money owed to FDJ), yet can go out and sign one of the best strikers of his generation.

    I know different governing bodies have different rules yada yada, but there is something inherently wrong in the football food chain.



  • Posts: 661 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    de jong has been named in the barca squad to go to america for pre season looks like he is sticking to his guns and is not going to be forced out of the club




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    The players Barca left off the tour include Braithwaite, Mingueza, Umtiti, Puig, Neto.

    Umtiti is the king of not being forced out of Barca so de Jong learning from a legend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭davemckenna25


    Or could it be he is going to force Barcelona to pay him what he's owed... Untill he gets an agreement on the deferred wages it would be stupid of him to say anything other than he doesn't want to leave... And quite silly to expect him to say anything else.



  • Posts: 661 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Utd fans like yourself already have their built in excuses now anyway if he does not join it was not because he did not want to come to utd despite all reports from the very start of this transfer saga that he did not want to leave barca and go to utd. why would a player want to leave barca with champions league football to utd who do not have it and more than likely will not get it for a few more seasons as they will not finish ahead of city pool chelsea or spurs for the foreseeable future



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭davemckenna25


    😂😂.

    No excuses offered here, I still expect him to join. We will know in 6 or 7 weeks when the window closes. If he doesn't it can't be helped, life goes on.

    Not sure if you are having a rant or just need to use more punctuation so it doesn't come across like a rant... 🤣



  • Posts: 661 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where did it all go wrong for wijnaldum a key player in pools success over the last few joins psg where they actually need a consistent player like him and now they have dumped him out of there preseason tour and are trying to offload him to clubs in italy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,135 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    I think Klopp got him to play to a standard higher than he actually is. When he doesn't have Klopp and the playing style of Liverpool to help bring that out he is found out to be and average-above average player but not great.


    Just a theory by the way, as I haven't seen enough of him since he left to offer a more educated opinion on him.



  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He clearly doesn't want to leave. It's a demotion let's face it. As bad as Barca are financially they'll compete for silverware this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Lewandowski to Barca done

    Aubameyang (33) & Lewandowski (34 next month) competing for the same spot and earning hundreds of thousands of euros a week.



  • Posts: 661 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I wonder will munich now consider ronaldo for a season if he is prepared to take a huge pay cut and buy himself out of his utd contract



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,109 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    He’s always incredible for the Netherlands too though, in a different role and system to Liverpools.

    He’s definitely an excellent player, just something has gone terribly wrong with the PSG move for some reason. I guess some pieces don’t always fit every team, even if they look the right shape on paper.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,227 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    No. They've come out multiple times ( the latest being earlier today) saying that they've no interest in him.

    And they've known lewy would be leaving for weeks now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭wrestlemaniac


    They've come out for weeks saying Lewa wasn't leaving, so take with a pinch of salt anything clubs say



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,227 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Except that they've been in constant negotiations with Barca for all that time. Saying he wasn't being sold was simply a negotiating tactic.

    Ronaldo is not a Bayern style signing. They don't sign older players, never mind a 38 year old. And they don't sign players who are bigger than the team or the club. And they don't pay the type of wages you get in England, never mind what Ronaldo would want.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,033 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,452 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    He's 30. Massive difference.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,361 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    I would really not be surprised if barcelona as we know it, do not exist by 2030.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,109 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    And literally only just 30 too, will be 30 for pretty much their entire first season. And being on a 3 year contract he'll be 32 for his final season with them, so there's practically zero worry about age being a factor. Ronaldo's definitely a very different kettle of fish alright.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,452 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    They will probably be praying for the ESL to exist by that time, to save their bacon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Barca have moved on to try and force Depay out of the club now.

    Reports they will let him go for a low fee however he will only join a top team with Champions League football and Spurs are considering a 17m bid for him.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,952 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm




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