Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

This thread has turned into the looney bin. It is supposed to be about Ukrainians, European people who have been shelled out of the homes they built and paid for and for whom we have properly agreed to do our bit. It isn't feasible for such large numbers of people to live in other parts of the Ukraine or Poland. Yes, they may live in tents here, but they would be living in tents in Poland and here they can get a job.

But of this thread you have people ranting about randomers coming from England which is a different issue. A lot of people here are like the Brexiteers in England who wanted to stop Polish people coming because they were too many Pakistanis in their area. Chalk and cheese

Here we go. Violin out. They can stay anywhere its not our problem. If you want to help go over and use your own money.

Don't entice them here to get resources that are already having a big impact on the population. Housing crisis, health crisis ect.

Good riddance.

Social welfare

That's a whole seperate conversation. Though id argue that giving them more than the basics is definitely leading to less genuine cases coming

Its simple, France pays €6.80 daily welfare allowance or €204 monthly. Ireland pays €208 weekly.

I was back in Berlin there a while back, a city I loved and lived in, changed completely now and not in a good way thanks to Merkels come-all-ye call, the papers now full of gang wars and the like, Munich another beautiful city, hookah bars in the centre, tension in the air at nighttime, not the same and not in a good way... Mark my words if Nicola tallant thinks the Kinahan and Hutch gangs were brutal just wait till they see whats coming down the line, and yes this has plenty to do with the Ukrainians arriving in Ireland unvetted, a good proportion of them aren't even from the Ukraine or from the part of that country mired in war, the outcome here is not going to be any different from any other country, what makes those emotive adolescents governing us think it would, the naive childish oul nonsense that everyone loves the Irish is it? this country needs to be saved from itself because eventually if the present path is followed, just like an inverted triangle it'll topple under its own weight and then there will be nothing just nothing left for anyone, what a legacy to leave to our grandchildren, an absolute cod of a country with its soul torn out and replaced with God knows what

So honest and so insightful. Sad reading, as we become or are a sad country.

Still think I’m living in some parallel universe with all this carry on.

Human nature being what it is if the Ukrainians hear they will be given welfare with no questions asked and it is the equivalent of a couple of weeks wages back home then of course they will make their way here.

Now in saying that a lot do want to get a job and contribute because there does seem to be a good work ethic instilled in them but we can't ignore the fact that the welfare money will be a draw for at least some of them.

And now the Goverment has fucked off on their summer break until September knowing the whole thing has turned into a complete mess.

Trump/Boris-style politicians can only emerge in FPTP systems. You won't see them in the EU.

A lesson was learned from Brexit: don't expect to see referendums like it run in future.

You don't elect the media, the judiciary, educational institutions, or the civil service, or any of the hundreds of quangos that really rule your society.

The revolution you're waiting for will never come.

I'm sure the aristocrats in Frace never thought they'd be dragged to the guillotine either, by all means FFG, keep telling the proles to eat cake instead!

Why?

Similar to fracking.

Instead of hydraulic pressure, it's people pressure. Instead of oil, it's money. Instead of geological problems, it's societal problems.

This is a high pressure means to extract the last bit of money from otherwise inextractable sources.

It has worked a charm this far, now we wait for the earthquake. You can already feel the ground tremors.

People fracking, or "pracking".