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Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭hunter2000


    The dog on the street knows this. What link do you want this isn’t judge Judy.



  • Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I never mentioned any other poster in my post. Iamwhoiam took offence as if it was aimed at her. It genuinely wasn’t aimed at any specific poster, but to all posters in general who are on here claiming all sorts with no actual first hand evidence or knowledge of what they are claiming.

    I have a long history of volunteering within my community. This has been expanded to include my efforts for the Ukrainians.



  • Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The dogs on the street know only what other dogs on the street tell them. In other words, SFA only others gripes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,731 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    It doesn't matter really if it's 1200, 120, or 12 - the bottom line is the pressure that the numbers arriving (or already here) are having on services and infrastructure that was already at breaking point, or already broken.

    All objective observers are recognising that the limit has been hit, the IT is leading with a poll that shows the public support has been lost as fast as their concerns have been rising, and we have increasing reports of the real victims here - those citizens whose needs have been delayed or ignored in the rush by the cabinet to virtue-signal in Brussels to accommodate what is largely welfare tourism at this point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,554 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    You're right. It's probably costing even more when you factor in taxis etc.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,731 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    How many refugees are you taking in then MA?

    It's easy to stand on the side-lines calling for others to "do more" and cheerleading for the Government, but a bit different when it's your home that is being opened?

    I'll be very transparent. I won't be taking anyone in and I won't be supporting welfare tourism in any other form than the taxes I pay that are being squandered for this purpose by the current Government which is bad enough in itself.

    There's an entire country and continent west of the limited region where fighting is actually taking place. But then they aren't offering the same level of "free stuff" I suppose!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,245 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Shane Coleman must be one of the worst I have seen for this. He great at slagging Irish people but what has he done himself. Has he taken in a family? Has he given money away?

    Thank god irish people can just throw money around place as everything is so cheap here.

    By me and my partner hosting Ukrainians we have done more than he ever will but I guarantee it be me who "right wing" if I was to express concerns over the overcrowding now.

    I have said this for years that a day like today would come. I want help genuine people but the bogus ones were always going get in the way eventually and so here we are.

    When are Irish people going say enough is enough? Nobody in media has balls to just ask a question or two on subject.

    It'd all the Brits fault.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Irelandsnumberone


    They have no showers for them in the airport where they are sleeping

    Some country we are

    Just reported on RTE radio 1. DAA blaming the Dept, RTE waiting reply from Dept

    Some farce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,197 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    MaryAnne, I've personally commended your efforts in volunteering and I respect that , I too have volunteered but more in the Homeless and DP areas and indeed have visited countries were poverty levels would literally shock folks.

    But my experiences does not cloud my judgement or indeed minimise my ability to see what's going on . I first came at this on witnessing the blatant hypocrisy I was witnessing the shocking inequality and disgraceful two tier system at play. I never volunteered to pick and choose who gets my sympathy. Turning a blind eye to what is clearly going on and repeatedly, I'm afraid doesn't garner my respect. Whilst some stories shared here may be outlandish, these experiences are shared repeatedly and consistently and many may have merit.

    What started off as good intentions, albeit clear evidence Ireland what completely unprepared and facing a chronic housing crisis already, has infact turned into a free for all , has been out of control for months and in any situation were there are poor controls, abuses and Shenanigans will take over.

    What really astonishes me is the fact Government with almost 6 months in, still doing absolutely no control or verification checks or even admitting there may be a problem here, it's extraordinary and made worse by the fact there is simply NO MORE ROOM IN THE INN. Other countries clearly admitting they can't cope, running out of momey and yet our Government still platying the "Nothing to see here" game.

    Government can't even muster up a little support for its own citizens and yet throw €100's of millions at an utterly incoherent, out of controll mess and still no end in sight , it's not only beggar's belief its negligent.

    Even I, with a little experience of the world am astounded at what's going on and actually now seriously concerned were this is going .

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,158 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Whatever it is, hotels aren't charities and they sure as sh1t aren't doing it out of the goodness of their little hearts.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,245 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,731 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Well this is what happens when virtue-signalling meets reality. It seldom ends well.

    The airport isn't designed to be a hostel. Stuff like this was inevitable unfortunately, but luckily there's a solution for it - the departure gates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo


    We are keeping them safe from war, and feeding them. You can help alot with basic facilities and requirements, or a few with welfare, houses etc. You cant do both.

    Is being a little dirty not better than death?

    It's an emergency



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,731 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    At this stage though we've no way of knowing who we're "saving" - those genuinely fleeing war, those seeing the chance for a more comfortable life, or just chancers from anywhere and everywhere jumping on the sympathy bandwagon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo


    But that's exactly it. It's not a requirement to a provide comfortable life. It's to provide refuge



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,197 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,731 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Absolutely.. basic shelter, essential/urgent medical care, and food. I'm not even sure why we're giving them "pocket money" when everything else is being paid for.

    The problem is that Micheal, Helen, Roderic and co seem to be trying to resettle them, not give them temporary shelter. If we actually DID the above then we could even support more genuine refugees in fact, but instead what they've done is open the floodgates to anyone looking for a handout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL


    It's absolutely pointless reading the journal. It has turned into a leftist propaganda rag and only allows opinions from that ilk of people. I always laugh when people quote polls from the Journal as like it's some sort of pulse of the nation type thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,197 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    It is an emergency, the lack of any sense of reality with our government that is, why and after all the evidence is this Government still encouraging this , there is simply no acceptable reason why our government is still continuing to adhere to this absurd EU Directive charade but more importantly encouraging desperate people to trapse across an entire continent in the hope of a Temporary better life when they can do no such thing, it preposterous and now bordering on negligence. Other EU countries finally seeing sense , ares clearly not.

    Is it seriously going to take the death of A child or parent for them to wake up, Stop this dangerous nonsense, sort out the mess they've already created and re think and while there at it , spare a moment about their own Citizens, is this really to much to ask for .

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL


    The situation we have today is a result of having only left leaning liberals in government and media for decades. There is no balance and anyone who tries to provide that balance is immediately attacked by that cartel as being racist/xenophobic/homophobic/trumper etc...

    The freedom of speech to even question this cartels policies/motive is also now under attack as even a mere mention of "closing the doors" or "having too many foreigner's" here will come under McEntee's hate crime bill nonsense.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,329 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I hate saying this and it comes across as harsh but you're an example why we should be prioritising Irish People.

    What's a bit crazy Votecounts is you feel you have to apologise for stating the bloody obvious; that we should look after our own first, and if there's anything left over then we can start to look after others. This is a fundamental part of human nature going back to the egg.

    Then again IMHO too much of western culture has gone fully and demonstrably insane of late in denying human nature and the bloody obvious. Bad ideas that came from a good place initially as bad ideas often do when they don't know when to take the foot off the throttle.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,197 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Good points but I'd certainly not think FFG are left leaning as such, it's all about virtue signalling , perceptions abroad etc .it's only when they look silly in the international stage do they react to anything it would seem.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Se we are going to have a tent city in Meath. Surely they can see the huge risks here. How long before there is a serious assault or somebody dies in one ?

    Utter negligence.

    Just as an aside back in March in the early days of this my Aunt took in a Ukrainian woman and her daughter. 2 days later a gang rocked up to their house with a BBQ and beers. More chance of them being from Mars than Ukraine apparently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭road_high




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    They moved on themselves after around 6 weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭eggy81


    Exactly. And this is as they should be albeit with proper sleeping and bathing facilities. Shouldn’t be asking people genuinely fleeing to sleep on the floor of an airport. They should be able to keep clean, warm and fed with basic internet needs and the like.

    The problem is that they are being granted benefits that entitle them to care that most middle income earners are either struggling to afford or have zero access to.


    it can only lead to resentment in the end but it’s all the governments doing.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,329 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Ditto. I have spare rooms and could house "refugees", but I won't. Not now, not ever. And if in the unlikely event I was put under pressure by our government to do so, I'd rather burn my house to the ground and sleep in a tent in the embers than agree. I would house Irish people if it came to it and yes I know how to tell the difference and make zero apology for that.

    I also know folks like Grandeeod worrying themselves to sleep, or not about their families and their future. I know more folks getting by fairly well, or at least on top of things for the most part, but very concerned about their futures and the futures of their children as they can see the gap between getting by and not, even going under, narrowing by the month.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,359 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    A pensioner gets €40 more than a single Ukrainian does . A pensioner has to feed themselves , pay heat and electricity , pay a GP if under 70 , pay for meds and has far less “ pocket money “ at their disposal if any .


    There is absolutely no need for a refugee in a hotel who has three meals a day and no bills to get €204 pocket money . It’s ridiculous



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    The Journal is the “pulse” of Gender Studies graduates in NGOs with gender pronouns



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,197 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    What could possibly go wrong, they'll need a Temporary Garda Station very shortly.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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