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Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    There's a reason we are known as "Treasure Island" in Africa



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,485 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Couldn’t agree more, and some gesture to increase classes by 10/12 won’t fool anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,817 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Moragle


    Iamwhoiam pledged a house. She really really tried to help and was held up at every hurdle. What do you want people to do? And what are you doing to help both the refugees and your own people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭techman1


    Surely a simple rule change preventing asylum seekers who have already sought asylum in Britain or arriving illegally from Britain from seeking asylum here should be made. The fact that the government is now openly admitting that this is now the issue and even talking about deportations again shows the pressure they are under. However this should have been all foreseen with Brexit



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL


    This government has lost the plot. They are an outright disgrace and embarrassment.

    The country is in serious trouble if we can't get them out and change course asap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 catmandont


    The TD on primetime just now.

    "100% increase in non-ukrainian refugees, as well as ukrainians themselves, do we need to get the message out that maybe we can't house everyone?" No, was the answer from the TD.

    Looked as uncomfortable as could be throughout the interview.

    These people do not represent Ireland or it's people, and they full well know it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,199 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Whilst technically no, this is actually what's happening, the EU Directive was intended to focus on those fleeing Ukraine or if you had a connection (residency) and were elsewhere and couldn't return to Ukraine you were covered , both Ukrainian Citizen and essentially, Tom, Dick, Harry and Abdul.

    This is a simplified understanding but essentially it's been a free for all, little or no verifications No Passport requirements but we seem to be accepting ID cards , Drivers licences etc. We've had arrivals from all over the world including Miami and here's the best bit , once in Ireland they are free to travel, including to Ukraine and back again.

    In essence an absolute farce 😏

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭hunter2000


    It’s like watching a car crash.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 catmandont


    Fantasists and profiteers.

    Nobody else could see this overall migration fiasco as anything but a fiasco with severe consequences baked in long term.

    Housing is already f"cked because of it, education and healthcare are circling the drain.

    Watch this winter, it's going to be a whopper, and just the start.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Yonce


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    Just like a big adventure, that's all it is. A holiday, soon it'll be a camping holiday, they don't care whether it's camping or hotels, they'll come over. They'll sit it out at the thought of the extra cash and eventually a free house. It sure as hell beats the Ukraine, had a look at their crime index yesterday and it's being belief that we can welcome anyone with open arms without any decent checks to protect the natives of our own country. I've an older son who just finished his leaving cert, have a job lined up already in another country for him. Screw college right now. Out. And the rest of mine will also follow suit.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,810 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    The problem is not scanning and registering people on the way in, assuming they are all from the Ukraine. It gives an opportunity for anyone to claim they are Ukrainian.

    Ireland needs to be tougher on people seeking asylum.

    If they are coming from Calais because Britain and France are seemingly getting a lot tougher on them, they instinctively start eyeing up Ireland, but we should not take them as they are already in a safe country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,485 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Paid by us to represent us but are doing the opposite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭hunter2000


    What is the opposition government doing or saying? Very little, in bed with fffgg



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭MysticMe


    A Ukrainian girl I was hosting for a few days (she is a part of a larger family and joined them to live in a hotel), her English is relatively good, I was informed by her about her cousin now working as a part-time seamstress in 4 different places illegally. One alteration place she works in is right across from the Intro office - she was wondering how it is allowed and if she would get caught. Her cousin gets €500 weekly for her work on top of her welfare allowance.

    Does anyone know if there is a way to inform revenue anonymously about this? And what are the repercussions if found out to be true?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,730 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    It's cock-ups like the current situation unfolding now that could well be the trigger for a backlash from the public.

    The government have really screwed things up.

    It's just incompetence at the end of the day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Yonce


    Yes after Leo's big welfare cheat campaign there's apparently a place on welfare.ie that you can submit an anonymous report welfare fraud.

    What'll be done? Probably nothing if they are Ukrainian, for the rest of us, brought to court for stealing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,939 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    How did you end up hosting her for a few days?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    And people who get up early in the morning 🤡



  • Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Interesting footage on the 9 o clock news tonight of the situation at the airport. This footage was about Ukrainians arriving and no accommodation. There were a huge amount of young men in tracksuit bottoms (well I guess they wouldn't be wearing suits) all in the 25-40 age group. I have to say none of these people look particularly traumatised!

    At this stage in Ukraine none of these people are coming from war torn areas.... all those areas are mostly evacuated and those that are still there are fighting. Its not like the beginning when hundreds of people were leaving the East. I doubt any of the Ukrainians coming at this stage are fleeing for their lives. They are fleeing to a better life, this is a lifestyle choice. Anyone coming in to Ireland now is doing it for economic reasons, not safety. They are as good as saying this themselves !



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 catmandont


    People are waking up to the reality of being boiled alive.

    In pledging, very publicly, to increase the population by one million by 2030, they couldn't have screamed it any louder in people's ears. But Irish people are awful meek.

    The temperature has been going up for years, slow enough that you knew something was wrong but mightn't have been able to point it out. Housing costs, health appointments and procedures, slim pickings for childcare places and education in general, transport.


    The war happened and the government rubbed their hands, here was an opportunity to reach their goals quicker, with the added bonus of an excuse to hide behind.

    But they turned up the heat too quick and people finally see it now, bubbling away in the cauldron.

    Everything that is happening was already happening, for years, it just got a nudge of fast forward.

    So now that you know, what are you going to do about it? Sit back and cry?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL


    It's becoming as clear as day now there was, is and never will be a plan for these people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,730 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    It would be funny if it wasn't so serious


    Martin said Ireland’s facilities were overloaded not because of too many Ukrainians, but because of an unexpected surge in asylum-seekers from Africa and the Middle East arriving via Britain




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭MysticMe


    She contacted me through Facebook, stayed for a few days and her family managed to find her a room in a hotel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 dublintaxidriver


    I know this is my first post so apologies for it being a bit negative. I am currently working as a taxi driver. We are transporting “refugees” all over the country. We are told not to try to talk to them or ask any questions. Most of the people I’ve had in my own car are not Ukrainian. I know this because I have tried to use google translate and none of them know what I am showing them. Most of the people I have transported are Algerian African and mostly young men. I also know for a fact that some of these “Ukrainians” are getting critical medical care that some of our own citizens have been refused or unable to receive because of lack of beds.

    dont get me wrong I don’t think any one human is any less deserving of anything than any other but this situation is a shambles and unless things change we are all going to pay a heavy price.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 catmandont


    Oh there was a plan alright, don't make the mistake of incompetence when money is on the table. They've been riding it for years off housing.

    Pressure = scarcity

    Scarcity = money

    Cheap labour = save money

    Get them in, who cares where really, profit. It's no more simple or complicated than that.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,336 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Once one of these asylum seekers die in a tent or due to inadequate conditions then the government will take notice.


    It will take a tragedy for something to change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL


    I'd do the same in their boots tbh. We are as soft as sh1t as a nation for allowing it though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,336 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Your link doesn’t make sense though as most are been accommodated in state owned buildings.


    There is no profit in that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,939 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    How did that happened? Were ye friends on Facebook before the war?



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