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Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

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  • Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ahh Maryanne, I actually prefer the moaners to the posters who seek to sugarcoat everything, and deflect away from the problems.

    As for people actually doing something, there's those who talk about it, and those who claim they're doing something about it... and lastly those who actually are doing something about it. How to tell the difference between them is anyone's guess...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,271 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I'm not embarrassed by it. The government should be though with their lie so bad that even Boris Johnson couldn't get away a whopper like that.

    And I feel sorry for the genuine refugees caught up in this. Our governments plan to admit the bogus and the genuine without distinction has ensured that we will now face a humanitarian crisis. No room at the inn for those that need it most, in one of the richest countries in the world. World class incompetence brought to you by industry leading bleeding hearts.

    What a look for a member of the UN security council...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,371 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    sure he might as well give them the college course places while he is fûcking at it. Anybody from outside Dublin will find it challenging to secure half decent quality accommodation as it is.

    not at capacity my bôllocks. That sort would never come out and say we were even if 1000 people were on mattresses in the GPO…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,169 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    O Dear, Sky News now reporting on the Debacle, lovely aerial shot of Gormanstown Camp and proposed Tent City , Government Spin machine won't like that.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    i would argue that all these people are doing, looking through their idealistic and sugar coated spectacles, is enabling government mismanagement of this whole thing. Encouraging the government to continue to wave people in with no critical analysis of what we could and should be doing. To the long term detriment of all of us



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,169 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Not embarrassing, it's out right lies by this Government, its actually, Shameful.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,355 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Are you speaking about me ? You haven’t a clue what I do



  • Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I didn’t mention any names……..but, if the cap fits…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,355 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    ^^^^^^^^



    Edited . Cant be arsed anwering you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭buried


    The only cap that needs to be fitted to anything is the cap on the refugee numbers your hero politicians have festooned on to this country, a sick regime that can't even look after it's own people in a constitutional Republic.

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,612 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    The IT poll numbers today show how the support and mood has turned against the Government parties. Of course, that leaves us with SF



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,169 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Almost all our politicians are pro accepting more refugees without limits or planning. The small few politicians who are against this are complete nutters who should never be let anywhere near power. We don’t have politicians of the maturity or stature to even discuss migration, let alone organising it appropriately.

    The only chance that migration will be handled in an organised manner is if Europe changes and forces us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    Who of our present crop of politicians are against accepting refugees without limits in your view ??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,169 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Just a few nutters like National Party and the like. Not genuine options for government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭buried


    I totally agree with you J, but the depressing realisation of that fact you just said (we don't have politicians of the maturity or stature to even discuss migration) is that, even if we suddenly did or actually were to gleam one or two would-be politicians capable of having such a meaningful conversation, those mature and sane people would immediately be showcased by the state sanctioned media outlets as the same nutters already vehemently against it. This is a serious problem, media in this country is a serious problem. As long as the majority continue to follow it, while literally burying their own heads in the dirt, this island is ultimately and totally doomed. One thing is for sure, this country is no longer a "Republic" of any shape or form, except in deluded title.

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    The popularity of the Rwanda policy will rise in the UK once they hear about our situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭buried


    I actually firmly believe there is at least one former high profile politician who is totally aware and against this current $hit-show but is probably too spooked to say anything about it, for exactly the same reason I just said there about being vilified by the state sanctioned media

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,169 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    That's actually a very good point, MM has single handily promoted the Conservatives policy, well done Michael, could he be Sir Michael in the new years honours List 🤔🤔

    Watching some UK reactions to his comments, they are having a field day, he's made us look like fools, even mention of the Potatoe Famine being brought up .

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Typical for Irish gov to blame UK on our own problems.

    Distract Irish with Rwanda stuff.

    Rwanda policy would be very popular in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    I caught a bit where they interviewed a young lad from Ukraine. He said he'd been in the airport since yesterday. No facilities.

    The interviewer with his crap saying "oh the Irish would be very disappointed in this" 🤔

    He said he thought about many other countries and chose Ireland because you get accommodation.

    Then he says he's already thinking about going home to Ukraine because citywest was closed.

    That right there should be setting off alarm bells. Or even the interviewer to ask the question, if you're going to go straight home then why are you here in the first place?

    He's here one day and doesn't have a room so says ahh I'll just go home. I thought you were running from war???

    It's a farce at this stage.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,954 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Well I like many others are too busy working paying 40% + marginal tax over €34k so people that never contributed a cent to the pot can have full social welfare plus all the trimmings- so forgive me if I don’t rush up to the airport after 5 pm to give even more



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    We'll take another 10,000 before something changes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 catmandont


    Holy Jaysus.

    How in the name of sanity has this country been allowed spin so far out of control?

    Importing people like it's going out of fashion, while Irish people are being shipped off to hospitals in Spain.

    What. The. Fuc.

    Brass necks and thick skin are what's needed for what's coming, and all the weepy eyed better just keep out of the way. Everyone knows how this is going to end if they dared spend a second on it. People have to leave. Lots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,371 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    id say you can stick another 0 on the end of that number.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,306 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Is the actual problem the guys coming in from outside Ukraine ? There seems to be a lot of them, they need to be sent back to wherever they came from straight away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,271 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    If we can't manage with the current numbers, I suspect that the flow will reduce substantially. The last time we were approaching capacity numbers suddenly fell quickly as word filtered back that it wasn't all that great here. As things improved, the draw increased again, which now has brought about tent town.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo


    Ah here that would be actual journalism and not the usual activism from our media



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 catmandont


    The time for sitting back and waiting for more abuse is over.

    Waiting passively for other people to decide whether our country is a a sweet enough deal is for masochists.

    Spines, we still have them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭hunter2000




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,579 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Is the current situation at the moment that you can board any flight to Ireland with zero photo ID and just say you are from Ukraine to be exempt? When word gets around that instead of spending €3k to people smugglers to get you across the English Channel you can instead just get a €35 flight from Paris in to Dublin to get to UK through back door things are going to get messy.



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