Mod Note Post #1 - The 2022 All Ireland Senior Football Championship.

Look at those goalposts move now.

There probably was more pressure on the cluxton alright I'll give you that. But in terms of difficulty! The 2 frees are worlds apart. There's been at least 2 frees this year alone that were far superior to cluxtons great effort.

He was talking about comerford shaking the **** out of the post like an uncoordinated ageing pole dancer, as o'shea was taking the winning free kick.

Clifford's yellow was on awkward high tackle attempt on a player in possession. A foul and a yellow,

Small could have got the black for 2 reasons, deliberately and illegally stopping/blocking an opposition support player making a run, or more likely in this case pulling a player to the ground.

It's a pretty clear cut really.

The whole "pulled down" wording is really stupid.

I have seen people arguing that some frees are not black because he pushed rather than pulled him to the ground.

Push, pulled, up, down, left, right at the end of the day it's impeding someone cynically.

It's funny you remember that and it is well over 20 years ago. Yet did not reference another pressure kick in 'the heat of battle' which was much more recent - 2017 AIF final. When Lee Keegan unsportingly threw his GPS at Dean Rock on a free. They say that people who can only recall stuff from many decades ago, but if more recent memory is not as clear it could be a sign of health issues! I hope it is nothing serious! 😉

Yes. Those are cynical fouls but not all cynical fouls are blacks. The pulling to the ground wording was there because of the Seán Cavanagh type of foul. 50% of fouls I’d say are cynical. Can’t be giving blacks for them all. Ref bottled a Derry black card as well on Saturday when the forward tries to win a free by grabbing the hand and pulling the man down. He only gave a yellow. It’s farcical.

I remember the furore and the offence that the dubs took when it was revealed that Lee Keegan threw a little item to try to put Dean Rock off. Shocking stuff altogether. And I remember the proclamations that he should be ashamed of himself.

On Sunday, we had a grown man walk over to the goalposts, trying to shake the bejaysus out of it to distract SOS in his endevours to slot it over the bar. Thankfully it didn’t work. Extremely unsportsmanlike. How come the dubs are not up in arms about such behaviour. In fairness, Comerford must have felt like an awful tlt when he saw it sailing over, and one of the Kerry lads run over to him celebrating in his face.

And all these calls for a red cards for SOS – due to dangerous play, “duty of care” etc. I remember the Dublin supporters coming to the defence of John Small when he broke Eoghan McLaughlins jaw last year – that it wasn’t intentional, and it was just a badly timed tackle. There was no red card issued, and rightly so says the Dublin fans.

A psychological type question – when you have been following a team which has had so much success like the Dublin team, as a fan, do you get totally blinkered in your views when things take a downturn – like Strumms and JRant on this site. Is it some kind of defensive mechanism, or that cannot deal with reality. I don’t know, but it would be an interesting thesis for someone to undertake. 

Small pulled Geaney back who then dived to ground. Should have yellow instead of black. Conor Lane strikes again.

I know it was obvious at the time, but in hindsight, Kevin Mac in particular was some bench option to have. Nowhere near that available to them now, although Small did do well when he came on. I wonder could Murchan's pace be best utilised as another Jack at wing-back, or maybe even punching holes through the middle at CF while moving Kilkenny closer to goal.

Neilan didn't see. It was flagged by Lane who was linesman. It wasn't a black card offence. It was not a deliberate pull down..Geaney exaggerated the contact. Wasn't enough for Geaney to go down..

Murchan is only a short arse though, he would get minced out of it by backs if he was not running in space. Wing back would be a good spot for him though. Ideally what Dublin need now is a few Shane Ryan types - loads of pace, powerful athlete can play anywhere. Basically what Chris Crummey does for the Dublin hurlers. That would be my fast fix anyway, fellas that would work like mad non stop. Then a few subs that would do the same. Fellas that are not afraid to drive forward and draw players to them.

Pulling player back is not a black card offence. He wasn't deliberately pulled to the ground. It a grey area which needed to be upgraded if any pulling should result in black card.

Jayus are you or were you ever a county councillor or involved in politics?

Because that was a marvelously written post, with numerous opaque digs attached mixed with a faux concerned direct approach.

While at the same time minimising the wrong Lee Keegan did -

(in throwing a GPS in trying to off put free taker Dean Rock in an AI Final. Which Rock saw at the corner of his eye, and thought was a piece of Muck)

But you simultaneously are magnifying the alleged wrong Comerford engaged in - shaking the posts. While minimising what Lee Keegan did. It is very cynical type of way of arguing, disingenuous like a politician.

Then have a dig at Dublin posters, and imply there is an unusual psychological issue with them as the cherry on top.

Well thought out, you should seriously run for office if not already as your talents are wasted on here.

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On your psychological question -

I am one of the more balanced Dublin supporters on here as I have been accused by many in recent months of playing the 'cute hoor' talking Kerry up and Dublin down etc by posters from many counties, including my own. But supporters come in all shapes, sizes, and mindsets. To claim some are blinkered after a period of success is a bit of misnomer.

As most die hard supporters of a county or club, feel hurt when they lose. There are just some who move on from it quicker than others. It is not a question of supporters being blinkered, previous success or not. But, merely because many diehard supporters get very upset after a loss.

Some on here use Dublin as a tool to deflect from their own counties failings. And the only GAA joy they get is when they see Dublin fail. I believe the Germans call it 'Schadenfreude.' But I would rather that than not being in the conversation. Because when other counties want your team to lose, and glory when they do - that means that county is a successful one. So in a way it is a complement. A sporting compliment, that is the beauty of sport.

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On the issue of gamesmanship.

There are some who played the game at a high level/won all Ireland's and not from Kerry/Dublin who claim Comerford showed 'smarts' in wasting the time when he was kicked in the head so it used up John Small's black card time. That person was Oisin McConville AI winner for Armagh 2002

Now Comerford got praised for such gamesmanship by a former Armagh intercounty legend of the sport. Is that any different to shaking the posts? Or in soccer when Grobbelaar did the wobbly knees for liverpool v Roma?

Or is throwing a GPS gamesmanship as well, or going beyond the line of gamesmanship to cheating?

These are all questions it is up for each individual to decide, I suppose.

But I feel like in deciding on the above, your mind is already weighed towards one decision.

Mainly because the player in question the last day was wearing a dark blue Dublin jersey. Not because of the actions at issue.

If the player in question (Comerford) had been wearing another counties jersey, I get the impression that the 'shaking of the posts' would not nearly be such an issue for you. But I am only speculating on that point.

As Dublin great Dean Rock said after he nailed that free in 2017 -

“You’d always notice lads distracting you and putting you off. That’s just part and parcel of it. That’s just Gaelic football"

He was pulled and he hit the ground.