Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

And yet government and RC cross would have us believe its all going swimmingly 🤔

Indeed Millstreet fell over themselves to say their Facilities were the opposite of what your saying .

Obviously I can know what community halls are like but wasn't this supposed to be 'Temporary " arrangement 🤔🤔

As far as disused convents are you now saying these are unacceptable 🤔

City West is offering Rooms based on numbers and are certainly not cramping in people and definitely not using camp beds.

Are you finally admitting this is and has been a farce from the outset 🤔 weren't you cheer leading all the hypocrisy of community halls being dicky'ed up by communities, who I pointed out on numerous occasions were up in arms previously about DP centres being located in their communities 🤔

It's all terribly confusing.

Scores are certainly cramped into small rooms in Millstreet. They have decent self contained flats, sizes dependant on families. Fact. And if I was fearing for my life running from a 'wartorn country' I'd take anything and be grateful. They have a lot more in Millstreet than many Irish families who are homeless.

Where do you think the people in hotels and places like Millstreet are putting their money? You seem to have this 'shur gawd love' them attitude. Yes, they're displaced, but they could easily go back, displace themselves at the Western side of Ukraine where it seems they'd be safer there than in a highschool in Texas at this stage.

I know your heart is in the right place, but ffs, most of the gang who are in hotels and not from the eastern side of Ukraine, but are here for the savings scheme we offer, they're taking the proverbial.

A few months in a hotel or even in a tent on the side of the road is a small sacrifice to them to save up our generosity.

We are being made fools of. Our generous nature has been rode bareback now. This gang are not contributing to the economy even though they are living free, and get handsome payments. Our money is hemorrhaging from the country.

I'm a middle income earner. I do not have €208 plus extra to spend as I wish after bills and food are paid from my salary every week. There are thousands, hundreds of thousands, who have worked and paid tax here since we were teens. We are now watching Ukrainians having more disposable income than us, and we are paying for it. My children re paying for it. My grandchildren will be paying for their spends.

As I said, I commend your good heart, it's in the right place, but your defence of a group that are bleeding us silly, is quite nauseating. Your innocence meets no bounds. You think it's okay to answer unknown numbers on the mobile phone when we've been asked by banks, and community guards not to answer unknown numbers due to fraudulent activities, and you've a hop of anyone suggesting that the RC should contact people through email or text to know it's legit.

I've no beef with you, but your defence of this gang is tiring.

I think the reality has been recognised by most watching this debacle unfold, but not by this government, they continue to insist with a straight face this is temporary and is sustainable its neither and that's Reality.

What's also reality is the shameful Hypocrisy at play which anyone with an ounce of intelligence can see.

I can see absolutely no logical reason why Ukrainians were essentially encouraaged to trapse across an entire continent to an island nation that was neither prepared or had the infrastructure in place and had already serious challenges to face.

It's entirely true large parts of Ukraine bombed but it also abundantly clear fighting has essentially being confined to 20% of this vast country for months now. If as, has been widely reported, Ukrainians can repeatedly visit Ukraine whilst refugees in Ireland, surely these refugees no longer have any business being here getting state supports, its utterly ludicrous.

The EU Could have easily directed financial Aid to bordering countries, even Ireland could have contributed to this more sensible approach.

Instead our government under obligations they clearly didn't grasp, opened the flood gates actively encouraged displacement across a continent, almost incentified mass immigration and knew full well it would be near impossible to remove 10"s of thousands who'll likely depend on state supports for a decade or more.

At a minimum a cap was required, at a minimum those who can return should start being encouraged to return but that carely ain't ever going to happen.

What is the latest figure? The cheerleaders for this mess kept saying it was only temporary and people would move home once safer? Is this happening?

Any non independent TDs noticing i.e all others toeing party line?

Always amazed me how anyone seriously thought this would be over Quickly , what's galling about it all is EU governments knew from the outset this wouldn't be over quickly, they constantly talk about "Temporary " this, "Temporary " that , any measures they've taken against Putin have been half assed and meaningless, our own government haven't even been shy about their ambitions to essentially increase migration here,

I'm more and more convinced they saw this has an opportunity to feel vacant positions in the Hospitality sector and thought with all the pledges there'll be no issues with accommodation. That notion has fallen on its arse , we're heading into winter, likely to still have 10's of thousands in Hotel accommodation over winter at enormous cost notwithstanding costs supporting refugees. I shudder to think what fuel prices will reach.

MM will stand up in the Dail tomorrow with a straight face and list all this governments achievements, no doubt he'll mention his governments remarkable achievements in sowing social unease , Blatant hypocrisy, making an already bad housing situation worse (hard to believe that's actually possible) , Financial madness and ineptitude.

I'll have my popcorn ready for tomorrow's MONC, it won't succeed but there'll be fireworks.

Why, it’s nothing to do with that agency now. Have some people in this country gone soft or something. If a guest in your house over stays their welcome you do not report them to anyone, you just kick them out.

She needs help to fcuk these squatters out of her property- stuff in bin bags and locks changed if necessary- call the Gardai if they threaten or trespass further

And I’d say make the Gardai aware immediately so they know

I hope it wasn’t the Red Cross because it will be dealt with at snails pace if they ever answer the phone