Mod Note Post #1 - The 2022 All Ireland Senior Football Championship.

Figuring out want went wrong is one thing.

but ensuring that the system won’t be inaccurate again is more important.

A system that has such a large impact potentially on results needs to be 100% failsafe.

again.. was it human error in its calibration or installation ? Or is the system itself potentially unreliable ?

remember we are talking well over a meter of a discrepancy here from the actual real life path of the football and what Hawkeye showed us..

A massive discrepancy. Huge.

Short kick out came into effect in the past 10 years, after Mc guiness as his team would just flood back.

They should ban forwards from going back behind the halfway line for the craic.

Periods there where Derry were just… employing what to me were ridiculously negative tactics. Loosing but absolutely packing everything and everybody behind the ball when Galway had possession… I’m thinking Derry lost that as much on the sideline as they did on the pitch.

8 scores in 74/75 minutes

Their goal came too late..74 minutes

It was a similar semi final to Dublin v Donegal in 2011 whereby scores was a rare as hens teeth. Dubs went on to win the 2011 final while Donegal came back with improved system of play the following year. Not sure if Derry have as much room for improvement as Donegal had back then and Gallagher is no McGuinness.

Don't know about the death of football, this defensive system has been around for a long time now and has always been overturned by good footballers.

Nobody has ever defended their way to a major trophy, and hopefully they never will.

It is awful to watch though. Some people say its like soccer now but I think its actually slower than soccer at times, the ball doesn't go backwards as much in soccer.

Anyone know if today's game is a draw is it extra time or a replay next week ? Thanks

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I'm amused as to what people were expecting to see today. Am I the only stooge that found this interesting. Derry have used this system all year and won Ulster with it after a stinker of an Ulster Final. Galway were presented with the challenge of breaking the code and it seems to me they did it perfectly. They mirrored the Derry system didn't concede an early goal and eventually relied on their vastly superior forward power to get them over the line, it may not have been pretty to watch but it definitely was entertaining from a tactical viewpoint. Don't get me wrong, I was delighted Derry were beaten and that good footballers were able to overcome this systematic game that Gallagher had developed. I always felt Derry would come up short against the elite teams and that Ulster is massively over hyped. Styles make fights and I think today's semifinal will be a belter as will the final as you will have top class forwards going at it no matter what the final pairing is.

Is it just me or has it been a very poor year of our two main feature games in the GAA in the hurling and the football?

I don’t want to get into the hurling v football debate here but apart from the Limerick v Clare Munster final the test has been underwhelming - see Clare v Kilkenny as one instance.

now don’t get me started on the football. At least in 2021 we had a thrilling Kerry v Tyrone semi final, mayo finally beat Dublin, mayo Tyrone was an exciting enough final.

kerry look average - have been untested really, their game with mayo was horrible.

dublin - have also sauntered through at ease, cork game was horrible.

derry played absolute backwards football all year and apart from the scenes with their fans their games were boring.

galway haven’t done anything spectacular either, pipped Roscommon & beat mayo, the Armagh game was a terrible first half. The only drama that came about in that game was the brawl and the fact Armagh got 2 late hail Mary’s.

even if today is a humdinger we need the final to be the same again to be a saving grace. By the way I’m not saying 2021 was anything blockbuster either, it’s probably been on the decline for a few years

maybe our teams just aren’t at the same level as previous or are suffering with the demands of almost professional status? When they are in fact amateurs with real lives and jobs outside of this.

You had the view that Galway has 6 top class forwards and that would be key to beating Derry and challenging for the AI. I think yesterday highlighted once more that they have two good, consistent forwards in Comer, Walsh and rest would not be not be top class category.

What won the semi final for Galway yesterday was staying in the game when Derry was in control for the opening 22 minutes and then stepping up on the intensity second half. A solid defensive showing was key and that includes the work rate of the Galway midfielders and forwards who helped out and tackled Derry in packs not giving them any time or room on the ball to score or create and the likes of Heron, McGuigan are not limited as they showed all championship will cause serious damage if allowed.

Galway defend as a team like that in the final they'll give themselves a right good chance of causing upset.

Thought the quality on show yesterday was poor enough, especially from an attacking POV. Galway deserved to win the game, but scored 10 times, and one of them was a gift of a goal from the crazy fly goalie moving at his glacial pace. Derry were really hamstrung by their ideology, just so wedded to the system that they couldn't break out of at all. That said, I thought they got a rough deal from the referee at critical times. Galway got frees so much easier, for instance the foot block in the first half at 3-1 which was a tap over to make it 4-1 and I recall in particular Walsh lying down and getting a soft free in front of goal around this period too. Galway always seemed to be rewarded when carrying into contact, while Derry seldom were.

That said Galway were the better of two ordinary sides. Apart from Comer, few of their big men were good, maybe Daly at CB and Kelly at 3 but they were good on the ball coming forward uncontested by Derry and their system.

Lots of talk about the fly goalie: I wouldn't rule out the fly goalie as a tactic based on its poor execution yesterday. Carrying the ball aimlessly at walking pace by a player without the skill or speed to cause problems on the overlap isn't the best use of that tactic.

It's the one bugbear I have about GAA. The expectation that every single game must be an instant classic without any context of the varying styles teams use. This is elite level sport (as far as GAA is concerned), I'd expect every game to more tactical than free-flowing mastery when it comes down to the business end of the championship. It's a symptom of modern life: YOU MUST ENTERTAIN ME NOW!!!!

I mean, look at most World Cup finals. Usually boring enough spectacles as a winning at all cost mindset supersedes putting on a show for the watching public. Liverpool two cup wins last season came on the back of two 0-0 draws after ET, but were still dramatic finishes due to the penalty shoot-out (which is seen as some sort of antithesis in our game). Some of the recent CL finals have been tough watches as well. Christ, we canonised Jack Charlton despite playing absolutely dire stuff 30 years ago.

Like I find rugby boring to watch as a spectacle but appreciate the application on show, and at the same time love American Football but can understand why others find it boring (I know quite a few).

Okay, Derry can be accused of playing anti-football, and I was delighted that Galway got through, but do people think Derry really give a fook about the entertainment spectacle given the year they had?

The beauty of team sport is there is no "one" way to play.