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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,463 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I do not expect them to invade Russia. However I do expect that we will see significant changes in this war over the next while. Russia cannot replace the military equipment it's has expended.

    It will take a year to replace 25% of what it lost in the last 4 months. If any I think it's when it's artillery collapses the UA will have virtually free rein.

    Any tanks or APV's it has left have hit there major overhaul stage. the UA has not deployed it's armoured capability yet. As it gain the advantages in artillery it will virtually roll up the Russian army.

    The big question will be if Russia can hold Crimea.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,463 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    All modem wars are dependent on technology and logistics. It's down to now how long the Russian artillery can last.

    They never attained air superiority. There advantage in tanks and APV's never materialised. They have not mobilised because they fear the conquences. There Naval superiority proved to be not decisive. They have virtually used up all there IC missiles.

    All they have is there fixed artillery. When that comes under pressure the game is up.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    The probability remains though that they have artillery shells and pieces in numbers that could be sustained for years.


    Russia has long been about such pieces and equipment and has Always spent accordingly. Even under Peter the Great, Russia put artillery above all else.


    One never knows but there is good reason to suspect that Russia will still have plenty of artillery and shells no matter how long the conflict.


    It may well run out of everything else before that but the Red Army will be going this year and well in to next.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    Again all those stockpiles of dumb munitions have a use by date. Would you wager they said they replaced them and trousered the money ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    There certainly is only so far they can go with it but I think we are a long way from that yet.


    Going by other conflicts. Anything in the last 30 years should be ok.

    They used alot of left over WW2 shells in the 80s.


    The Afghan Army had Ww1 tanks in use in fighting them, for whatever use that was.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,705 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I'm not entirely surprised by his description and it tallies with other reports we've heard from Moscow in the media. The idea of mass protests in Russia or people turning against Putin is a total non runner.

    But let's see how this pans out in the longer term. I'm not sure the implications have even dawned yet on the Russian public of being a permanent pariah state on the global stage. They are nowhere even near seeing how bad things might become, politically, socially and economically - even people in the Soviet Union arguably had more freedoms than this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Putin's Russia is by an order of magnitude more free, more open,less brutal.


    There really is no comparison. It's not that Russia today is nice but pointing out the historical reality of Soviet Russia.


    There is no comparison ..


    Could Putin even get back to half the control that there was in Gorbachev's time, no, not a hope and Gorby was a gentle by party standards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,533 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Shells maybe fine stockpiled for years, problem is getting them to the artillery on the front line. With major arms depots blown up and over 100km from the front line, it makes supplying those artillery pieces extremely slow. Not to mention said artillery barrels need to be also replaced.

    Peter the great was over 400 years ago, don't you believe wars have changed since then?

    Were at the stage now where Russia is lobbing artillery blindly at Ukraine, while Ukraine are conducting precision strikes now on the Russians.

    Russians took about 3 months to take 20 square miles of territory. The 20% being thrown about is mainly from their initial trust (when certain key figures in the Donbas were working with Russians and Ukraine lacked serious western arms)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,705 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Pre February 24th maybe? They are effectively cut off from the western world with all Russian flights banned from entering western airspace. Their sports teams and athletes are banned from all international competitions, including at underage level (something that never happened to the USSR at any point in the 1960s, 1970s or 1980s) and from all cultural events (Eurovision, ballet, theatre, music etc). There was no equivalent to the sanctions against the regime obviously, as they had a closed economy in Soviet times. State media since the invasion can not be said to be much different to how it was in the USSR with all independent TV and radio stations plus newspapers shut down by the government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,423 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    This could be nearly on a Green thread.

    Moscow is not cut off from the western world. They may be flying to Dubai and Turkey or the "Stans" and so on. But the fights are flying.

    Moscow on flight radar24.

    Screenshot_20220709-080328_Chrome.jpg


    And just for the heck.

    Same time a picture of France.

    Screenshot_20220709-080126_Chrome.jpg

    Edit : it does look like any international flights into or out of Russia can only go to/from Moscow.

    Post edited by Say my name on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    As Ukraine is getting more mobile artillery, Russia have a huge problem. Practically all of theirs is fixed and make easier targets. They can’t drive along fire off a dozen shells and move off like Ukraine can with western artillery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,249 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Especially with the chap who’s wife owns billions of Russian assets in the running for the pm job



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,646 ✭✭✭rogber


    Sixty year old jailed for 7 years in Russia for criticising the war. A reminder that there are some good people there, this takes real courage:

    But a shame on the country that such voices are extremely rare. The government can jail a few isolated people, they couldn't jail a million if they spoke out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Christ, they need better artists. Both futures for the kid look equally horrific.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,673 ✭✭✭Cordell


    And on the right side it will be those soldiers that return home after a 12 month mission just in time to see their child born.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    The smart answer might be that a few ballistic missiles landing in their midst might change their tune, which is fortunately very unlikely for them at the moment. But it matters little, it's how the Russian administration prosecute their war that matters. If they are inevitably required to bring in conscription, how would that go down? People can be blasé when there's no immediate impact on them or their families. As many have pointed out, as long as the 'west' continues to support Ukraine both militarily and economically, this will be a long war. And how can Russia sustain that without substantial impact on the ordinary Russian citizen? P



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    I am in a happy mood today thanks to the rugby so here is something on the humorous side.

    Russia on week 1 of the invasion of Ukraine. 'everything is going to plan we are mighty we are might we are invincible'

    Russia on week 2 'we will defeaaaeeta aalll those natzzies'

    Week 3 'everything is ok'

    week 4 'watch it... watch it... we v'will nuke you'

    Week 5 'We have mega wapper unstoopppl missiles' [this is Putin speaking remember he has a funny voice in case people missed it]

    week 10 'NATO is bad it is all NATO'S faulty and Joe Bediaans faulty and Hillery Ckintons fault. [this is still Putin talking in his funny voice again]

    week 17 ' were are mighty and will vill turn off the gas and de-strip the world... you ave been v'warred no gas no oil no food no voddaka' [at this stage Putin accent is sounding just daft and slightly drunk]

    Dan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,041 ✭✭✭jmreire


    I lived there for several years, and one of the first surprises I got ( after passing through Sheremetyevo Airport) was that while Moscow ( St. Petersburg etc) were modern cities, rural Russia was a very different story, and surprise Nr 2 was that Ethnic Russians were not very popular throughout the different republics. So while Putin can keep using cannon fodder from the provinces ( so to speak) Muscovites will not get too stressed about what is happening in Ukraine, couple that with extremely aggressive laws forbidding any criticisms' of either Putin or the Military, or the "Limited Action against the Nazi's in Ukraine" and you will not get any major protests in Moscow. The provinces??? Now that's different matter entirely, but even if there were major protests there, Putin would put them down as ruthlessly as he is attacking Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,705 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I have the feeling that Putin and the regime will find it less easy to control the narrative the longer the war goes on. Long wars are always unpopular no matter who is waging them - people just get sick of them and want them to be over. I've seen one or two Russia experts suggest that the war could even eventually lead to the break up of Russia if it turns into a prolonged war. Civil unrest in the republics could have a snowball effect.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,521 ✭✭✭zv2


    Erm...I don't know how Russian customs go but this looks odd from any angle-

    Kissed by Vladimir Putin: how Russian president treats kids | Mind.ua

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,423 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    So the president of Russia is Jimmy Saville.!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    When Litvenenko was assassinated in London, it was said that his public claims that Putin was a wrong 'un with a prediliction for children was the main reason he was ordered to be killed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,423 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    If it's true it wouldn't be the first Russian official to be a paedophile. In Stalins time Beria was a ruthless c*nt. Also a prolific paedophile.

    I'd say it's true. Explains more why he's the way he is and ruling with the iron fist.

    The people around him wouldn't give in on it though or they'll be novichoked.

    You'd be wondering now about german officials and what exactly the KGB were doing with the kidnapped german children back those years ago. And Putin was a KGB officer in Germany.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    counterattack deep inside enemy territory

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,705 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    There have been rumours floating around through the years of Putin either being gay or a gay paedophile and that his relationships with women were invented to throw people off the trail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,041 ✭✭✭jmreire


    The only thing keeping the peace in Chechnya is the billions Putin is giving Kadyrov, once that dries up, you will see a lot of old scores being settled. Kadyrov is far from being a popular ruler in Grozny, for sure. Ditto in Georgia, If Putin goes, you will see a lot of historical differences emerging. Clan culture ( and old enmities ) are still strong in the Republics..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,521 ✭✭✭zv2


    Post edited by zv2 on

    It looks like history is starting up again.



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  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That’s kind of a strange comment to be honest.



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