Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

I never misrepresented the Pfizer statement. I provided a link and quoted from it. You constantly post in bad faith and twist, troll and derail because you can't debate any other way.

I have asked you multiple times about the necessity for vaccinating children and you never answered. Choosing instead to try and lead me down dead ends arguing petty little points of no consequence.

When you are asked a question you immediately make up a dumb question and then say "why should I answer yours if you don't answer mine".

This is your last opportunity to answer the question on necessity for young children.

A simple yes or no. Should they be given the COVID jab or not.

If I don't get a straight answer I'm putting you on ignore.

Yes like everyone else I followed the progress of vaxx development hoping for a great vaccine. It was fairly obvious from day 1 of vaccine roll out that things were not going quite as expected. The data coming out of Israel was not great in the early stages and never really improved. Then the transition from vaxxing the vulnerable and elderly to the borderline mandatory vaxx of everyone including kids changed the narrative.

Are you trying to wind up those right wing conspiracy theorist, granny killing, fossil fuel burning, Dutch Farmer supporting anti vaxxers,

Memory hole'n what happened here on the Island by suggesting it was Voluntary just isn't going to fly.

Hey remember that one time when it looked like you needed a jab for electric picnic and they all got jabbed and there was no ep in the end.

That's the 3rd of September, the Monday after the picnic weekend that never was.

Lol, the CDC. After all you've been presented with.

Glad you finally said you support it from 6mts and up. We've shown the data is junk by using Pfizer's own findings, kids build good natural immunity with a 0.00% statical risk of adverse outcomes.

They don't need it. The benefits don't out way the safety risks.

no problem if you don't know where to begin. the basics seems be lost on a number of people in this thread....

Junior cert science is a great start, leaving cert biology will take you well above the average in here... but seeing as you have a new theory that all viruses will automatically mutate into a less severe version to humans ... I'm not gonna lie, this ground breaking discovery by yourself, with no prior evidence.... it might just win the nobel prize...

go for it man... this sort of stuff is unheard of

It has been explained many times about covid mutating. Do you need it explained once more in the hope that it sinks in?

No one was forced or coerced to get the vaccine. Thank you for confirming that with your post.

Wow. Back to basics. The vaccines are still effective against current variants, and the variants have been getting weaker. New versions have not been required yet.

Ran out of road with the last argument and now taking a wild diversion. However, changing the point to how new versions have not been of the vaccine reinforces how good the existing vaccines are.

Godwin strikes again. All your arguments are null and void. It appears that you are anti vaccine just to be a contrarian. You haven’t provided any compelling arguments why vaccines are unsafe. You’ve flipped the conversation multiple times in your last few posts alone. It’s as if you work off a list of arguments and use a random number generator to see what you can fling and if it will stick.

In your edited post you added that pharmaceutical companies exist to make a profit. If they made a dangerous vaccine, then they wouldn’t be making profits. If the vaccine killed so many people as your co-antivaxxers claim, then they wouldn’t make a profit of them in future. It’s in pharmaceutical companies interest to keep people alive as long as possible because it increases the chances that they will require medication and other treatments for other ailments as they age. It’s very simple logic. Dead people don’t make pharmaceutical companies money.

Apart from the fact that their rights were restricted until they did what they were told. Even then when when they did comply it made no difference just as I predicted it wouldn't.

The vast majority under 65 pretty much took it for no benefit. It wasn't safe it wasn't effective it didn't stop the disease, it didn't stop you getting infected, it didn't stop you spreading it. The incidence of disease increased the more we vaccinated.

Most people have experienced it personally by now and realise it wasn't a death sentence, far from. 50% of PCR+ had no symptoms and didn't even know they had it. It will be very difficult to frighten or coerce them into continuing to take jab after jab.

Most of the highly vaccinated countries can't even give them away now. Ireland included.

Looks like you boys and girls are the only ones left behind the curve.