Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

Again. You posted that article.

You lied about what it said.

Why did you lie about it when you're trying to "uncover the truth"?

It was more than one person calling you a liar, I was one who did also, on the back of the Israeli article you posted which actually was about nothing to do with the study it referenced... where you said you read the study... so you lied...

As sad as the boohoo story is, that's all it is without proof, a story ... it's not facebook or twitter here, if you're going to claim something, have the evidence to back it up.

For ref, which I responded to and you dodged:

Didn't intend to dodge it was a decent post and deserved a respone. Had a reply just ready but got busy and you'd moved on to something else I didn't agree with you on.

I would imagine for the same reason as you were banned from covid forum threads when posting the same thing, it's highly unlikely to have actually happened (as you were one of those attacking vaccines before the roll out) and it's based off anecdotes and isn't data driven.

Now what you say could be correct, but I'd imagine it's on you that your credibility in that regard was shot when you post it.

I for one don't believe it, if it's real, my condolences, if it's made up, as is highly likely, that is the actions of an awful human.

The fact that you're jumping from twitter post to Facebook post and continuing to spread misinformation supports this.

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FYI for those on the forum, I never got proof of donation from @DrFrost.

I'm banned from one or two for loosing the rag with a few heads and haven't appealed, in all seriousness who wants to be in the mask thread.

I'm not banned from the vaccine thread or plenty others, those vaccines you say I attacked were discontinued in Ireland, I was happy enought to take the Oxford one until it started to look dodgy, also mentioned the J&J, why aren't they still lashing them out? I backed up my findings with the source.

Your trying to deliberatly misrepresnt me, I was right about them beacuse I actually followed the Science as it evolved

I've never once posted something from facebook. Twitter is an excellent news source if you know how to use it.

You've basically called me a liar again, jesus if there was a decent bone in your body you'd have enough cop on not to say anything if you think i'm making that up.

The AZ and J&J vaccines have been well covered already. There were valid reasons for them declining in use. It’s all in this thread, just like practically everything else brought up repeatedly. If something new is raised, great, but sadly conspiracy theorists appear to be stuck in a loop. Repeating falsehoods does not make them suddenly become true. However, there are other people who might see the thread and are gullible and get influenced by conspiracy theorists if the repeated lies are not called out. There are also quite a few conspiracy theorists that are proven liars and practically all their post contain lies. Calling a proven liar a liar is factual.

It's a term some conspiracy theorists have taken to using to make the vaccination program seem I dunno... sillier? More nonsensical? It's unclear and they won't explain why they're using it and other euphemisms.

At least 2 of them from this thread reported me as well. I will not be pushed off the thread.

Lol.

I asserted no such thing. I never once said, claimed or insinuated that the phrase was not contained in the link.

This is a lie on your part.

What I am arguing is that you are misrepresenting what was said in the article to mean something it doesn't. You clearly do not understand how someone can do this, so I will demonstrate. Your posts repeatedly contain the words "the vaccine is 100% effective."

Does this mean that you are claiming it is 100% effective?

Would it be honest of me to declare that's your stance?

(And since we'd be forever getting you to answer these questions...) No, obviously not because the rest of your posts and the complete sentences you use make it clear that's not what you are saying.

When the article uses the phrase "100% effective" you claim they are saying this about the vaccine as a whole and that this would always be the case.

But when you read the full sentence including the bits you keep editing out we can see that's not the case.

They said that it was shown to be 100% effective in the scope of a South African study where there was only one or two old variants around at the time.

The only other example they use it for is referring to effectiveness against severe disease which is different to effectiveness against infection.

And this is also aside from all the other things in the article that you keep pretending don't exist and probably haven't actually read. Like for example how they keep quoting other less than 100% figures for effectiveness. Or the big long disclaimer at the end where they spell out for everyone that all this information was accurate at the time and circumstances were open to change.

Again this is something you provided as evidence for your argument.

You didn't actually read it.

And this isn't the only time you've been caught out doing this.

Fair play.

How so?

History shows that your idea of a thread solely for conspiracy theorists would not work. They never question each other. It would be the echo chamber conspiracy theorists have been crying for via the feedback thread. Ye all want to post any old shite and not be challenged. That’s fair enough if you are talking harmless stuff, but covid has killed and continues to kill albeit at a lesser level. Anyone posting falsehoods about It should be challenged.