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Mod Note Post #1 - The 2022 All Ireland Senior Football Championship.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Get the helicopter, like Paidi did with Westmeath....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭Sonny678


    Some excellent points made above. Its always fascinating to hear what people think outside county. Yes the logistics money etc its all issue. Outside managers seem to be in vogue again if they ever went out. Rory Gallagher in Derry, Davy Fitzgerald went to Wexford, Henry Shefflin to Galway. Our neighbours kildare have tried Mick O Dwyer, Kieran McGeeney and Jack O Connor. Offaly have John Maughan and their hurlers had Kevin Fennelly. Laois have had 2 kerry men recently Quirke and Surgrue. Westmeath had Paudi and O Flathera. And of course Micky Harte is in louth.Banty was Meaths only fray into an outside manager appointment.

    Regards helicopter the Football men and football ladies sponsors both have helicopter and hurling sponsors are involved in property. Something could be put together. And most counties have private donors for outside manager. I think that could be possible here, but I don't know exactly how they would put together an outside managers package.

    Anyway it's looks like it's between Bernard Flynn and Eamon Fitzmaurice but McDermott cannot still be ruled out. Eamon Fitzmaurice has attended 2 interviews. But how it works out we will have to see. It might be early next week before we hear anything, but we should hear news on who is new Meath manager by Friday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭Sonny678


    Rumours going around tonight last minute candidate like Mick o Dowd in 2013 who in 2013 no one knew had gone for even interview. Former Meath senior selector and former Meath minor, U20 and U21 manager Barry Callaghan name as next manager is doing rounds. Has Fitzmaurice negotiations collapsed??? There seems to be issues with Flynn and what happened with U20 last year. Hopefully they can still get Fitzmaurice over the line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Is Mickey Harte canavan and oisin mconville gone now for the championship ?

    I'd way prefer to watch them over rte



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No, Sky are still showing the SF and Final as well as RTE.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭BaywatchHQ


    I bet the middle aged Derry fans have booked tomorrow off work to go up in their attic to decide which jersey from the 90s to wear to the game.

    A lot of Derry people are actually off work next week for the 12th holidays. If Derry win there could be a lot of drama in towns because the unionists won't want the Derry flags up. Some unionists are hating this Derry success as there have been a lot of comments on social media. To be fair though I hated Northern Ireland being in Euro 2016, I couldn't bring myself to watch a second of their games.



  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    600k over 4 years for a manager. That's into the hand too. Incredible nonsense. Is that what he would be paid or is that for his entire setup?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think I remember a story from a few years ago where a village in NI did a quick turnaround from having unionists paraphernalia up for a Saturday Apprentice Boys parade to having the Tyrone GAA paraphernalia up for a semi final on the Sunday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,356 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Generally that would include full setup

    Manager chooses (with his backroom staff) what Fitness Analysis products/services they use, what Performance Analysis Products/Services they use

    Manager, in agreement with the County Board would agree rates for other Backroom staff too then

    A common thing for a Manager to say when I speak to them is 'Ok, so I've budgeted x amount per match for Analysis' etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭timmyntc




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Sure with your BIG at the same Euros, why would you have need to watch the GAWA and their cretinous supporters?

    Poor wee craturs, them men of orange. What happened to this shared space bull they have been spouting every June and July since the Fleg protests began?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭Sonny678


    A new Meath sponsor supposedly will pay most cost of appointing someone like Fitzmaurice. And even if Meath go for internal manager, stay in the county, his management team is going to be pricey also.

    Here is an article from local Meath website on developments they have heard about next Meath manager.

    https://meathlive.net/2022/07/07/exclusive-2-fitzmaurice-may-join-flynn-ticket/

    Local Meath new website above mentions Bernard Flynn wants Eamon Fitzmaurice as coach. As it says Fitzmaurice is interested in the Meath managerial job. All the signs last few week it was between Flynn and Fitzmaurice. Doesn’t mean they will get it, but thats being the talk in the county. For last 3 weeks I have heard Fitzmaurice is interested in Meath job. The article says they hear Robbie Brennan is no longer part of Flynn’s management team. I personally have heard nothing about Flynn and Fitzmaurice management team together, but that both are interested in the job on their own. A new Meath sponsor supposedly will pay most cost of appointing someone like Fitzmaurice. All the interviews are done. You would have expected decision by now, maybe there was a hitch at start of week. Maybe Flynn and Fitzmaurice are going together like Dooher/Lohan or Declan Bonner with Stephen Rochford in Donegal. I have heard nothing about Flynn and Fitzmaurice together, but the above article mentions this. Thats very interesting at this stage. We should hear something tonight tomorrow or early next week. But I hope its Fitzmaurice on his own. For me that would be the best choice, but it is interesting the article says Flynn wants Fitzmaurice and him to work together. Watch this space.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,714 ✭✭✭dobman88


    James McCarthy is taking part in this clip, I couldn't spot Con.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,542 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I cannot see Fitzmaurice coming in unless he has the complete say. There is no upside in just being Coach. If you are involved in any management situation you need people you can trust and have confidence in. Coming in as a number two to someone you never dealt with before is not any option

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    65k the expected attendance for the two games in Croke Park this week.

    If Saturdays Derry v Galway game was a stand alone instead of having the Tailteann Cup played along side it the attendance would likely be 35 to 40k

    Must be the lowest attendance for a Dublin v Kerry championship game in Croke park for a number of years. The cost of inflation kicking in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    There are enough more or less millionaires in Dublin to fill Croke Park, they just don't want to go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Fattybojangles


    By God Fitzmaurice has some job ahead if he takes the Meath job they are absolutely chronic bad I don't think they've ever been as bad in my lifetime.

    As for the attendances playing every 2 weeks and the wider cost of living crisis really starting to bite the GAA should be offering discounted tickets to get people in but they'd never do that of course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Yep, whoever decided to condense the entire champo with no replays is a moron (or comittee of morons). I really miss the older schedule, it’s like the championship is an inconvenience where the meat of its been squeezed mostly into June and July. (May and April don’t feel like championship months it’s a summer tournament).

    I get it’s for the clubs but it’s poxy. Is there any chance it will revert back even closer to the longer schedule?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Monaghan and Tyrone, two First Division teams went out of the Championship on the 4th of June and will not play again for seven months. Will players commit to that in the future?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,542 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    It may be tinkered with but it will not change back. The problem is you would have to go back to a split IC season. You are back again to county managers refusing to release county players, arranging team holidays during April and county executive 's afraid to challenge them.

    As for the replay BS,. next year every team will have three round robin games and you will have peliminary QF for 2nd and 3rd placed team.

    Replays would be the end of the championship for most winning teams with a 7-8 day turnaround to next match.

    For yourself start to follow your local club

    Believe it or not players are delighted with it. There whole year is no longer dominated by there IC scheduled. It's now 7-8 months rather than 9-10. They can schedule family events during The club season. If there club season ends early they have a couple of months of freedom

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Calling them morons is harsh.

    The championship schedule has been a topic of hot debate for years.

    A championship running from early May to late September with 3 weeks to a month between games for some teams was not ideal either.

    And as for the no replays, have people already forgotten all the "Grab All Association" tropes when games finished level?

    I'm not a fan of the condensed schedule, but I'm not going to blame anyone for trying it either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    As somebody who fell in love with Football after the Dublin v meath 1991 replay saga, I can’t get on board with no replays, even with a round robin. Like Armagh v Galway being decided on penos, it’s a terrible way to end such obsorbing games and a real shame people won’t get to see another great game. Replays usually involve close games that everybody wants to see. Round robins don’t make the game anymore exciting , certainly as an alternative to replays.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    I don’t know anybody who liked the idea of changing the championship calendar so radically and cancelling replays. Maybe hardcore club men love it, maybe some players do aswell and maybe it’s because me and my friends aren’t as involved in our clubs as we were when younger, but I could never see how it was going to enhance the tournament. It’s a pile of sh*t like this, maybe that’s just me but I can’t see how anybody thought it would be a success in that format.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,542 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    The problem with replays at playoff stages is that there will be two weeks between rounds

    The winning team involved in a replay will be out three Sundays in a row. They will not win the third Sunday unless in a miss match.

    After whining over the need for replays the next whining would be the need for a rest period.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Meath played a game nearly every week on the way to the 1991 final. Let them whine, don’t change the entire calendar because it doesn’t suit some teams.

    How hard is it for teams to play a game every 7 days? They have to do it at club level, particularly in Dublin where it’s fairly intense. Thems the breaks in sport, some of the rules suit some teams some of the time and other times it doesn’t but everybody has to deal with the same rules at the start of the tournament , get on with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,542 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Clubs were being strangled to death by the IC season. County boards could not put in place championship fixtures. They still needed to finish competitions not involving county players by early July in most counties other than those that could be fairly sure they would be still be involved.

    The championship of the weaker code in a county could be started before the stronger code finished or the game fixed for the Saturday after the county team exited.

    Most of the whining and whinging going on is by Pundits, some journalists and people who only attend IC games.

    At club level previous to this the training season started in a January and could could end up it going on all year long. Now it starts in mid March and players know when championship starts and can arrange holidays around this

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,609 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Replays are great in a romantic sort of way and I loved the Limerick vs Tipp 3 in a row but they were neighbours like Dublin and Meath.

    Imagine Kerry and Donegal had to do 4 games on the road. Limerick vs Galway cost me 70 tickets/travel + food and drink so I can understand people not being happy to walk away from that with no resolution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,235 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    It's so wrong for the finals to be in July. They should be in September.

    Also worth remembering that the world cup should be on now so it's going to be competing directly with the world cup in future.

    Then you'll have the euros every 4 years too. People going on holidays.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    I think it's worth waiting until we complete the entire calendar before complaining about it. The club championship should be greatly improved by it (altough I'm not sure why Mayo are waiting until Sept to start ours) and I think most GAA fans will appreciate that



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