BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? threadbans in OP

07-07-2022 11:32AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119303231#Comment_119303231

The main thing that kept Johnson in power over the past 7 months is how terrible the other Tory candidates for the job were. Something the Tory MP's were very much aware of. I doubt there is too many of them sharing your optimism.

PokeHerKing · 07-07-2022 11:33AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119303260#Comment_119303260

The wind...

Dempo1 · 07-07-2022 11:36AM

Greg Clark, arch anti brexiter coming back into cabinet according to Sky

Surprised Penny Mordaunt hasn't resigned , I'd wager that decision will prove to be un wise re her leadership ambitions.

Quin_Dub · 07-07-2022 11:36AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119303231#Comment_119303231

"this is a very positive and upbeat day for the Conservatives"

How??

Just how can anyone possibly see today as a "positive and upbeat day for the Conservatives"?

It is an absolute Car crash of staggering proportions , not just for Boris Johnson but for all of them.

The last few weeks have exposed (if "exposed" is the right term for something that's been obvious for years) how utterly morally bankrupt the Tory party is.

The ONLY thing that made them dump Boris was the belief that they couldn't win an Election with him in charge.

Not his lying , not his corruption , not his "unusual" relationship with a KGB operative , not his misogyny , not his Islamophobia , not his general utter disdain for the British public.

No , all of those things are perfectly fine for the Tory party , but woe betide the PM who threatens their ability to hold on to Power!!

Upbeat day my arse...

Danzy · 07-07-2022 11:38AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119303265#Comment_119303265

Blair's Labour party implemented more Labour policy than any Govt in 40 years.

Even before him labour leaders like Callaghan and Wilson would be viewed as hard right by modern Labour activists.

There is no shame in winning and implementation of even some of your policies. It may not have the nobility of defiant opposition or they grandiose purity of a great plan to end all wrongs come the revolution but it can be surprisingly effective. Obviously Blair can't be mentioned in Labour anymore.

Widdensushi · 07-07-2022 11:39AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119302959#Comment_119302959

He needs time to plan his retirement party.

gmisk · 07-07-2022 11:43AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119302854#Comment_119302854

I wouldn't classify Sunak as squeaky clean...some dodgy dealings around COVID contracts/supports involving him and his wife and family

07-07-2022 11:43AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119303289#Comment_119303289

The ONLY thing that made them dump Boris was the belief that they couldn't win an Election with him in charge.

Why is that a bad thing? That's the very nature of politics.

The UK electorate want an actual Conservative Party.

Boris was the right man in 2019 but the UK electorate have spoken, through polling, and a new leader is needed for a fresh start.

Though I'm still a fan of Boris Johnson and think criticisms of him are blown out of all proportion, he was a conservative with a small c.

Now I'm hoping the button can be pressed for a large C conservative to take over and implement the kind of agenda that the British people voted for in overwhelming number in 2019 (which was also a complete rejection of Corbyn and socialism / left-wing politics).

So yes, this is definitely a positive day for the Conservatives. After all, MPs wanted him gone, and now he's gone.

How could they not be anything but pleased by the outcome?

How could they not be pleased that they have a new opportunity to restore confidence in the party and retain their seats in December 2024?

How could they not be pleased that they can now defeat Labour at the next election?

The Labour Party is delighted, ecstatic in fact. As I said earlier, this is nothing but a pyrrhic victory for them. The Conservatives are almost guaranteed to have the last laugh at the next GE.

For Forks Sake · 07-07-2022 11:47AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119302944#Comment_119302944

Good news for Pitt The Elder I suppose..

Penn · 07-07-2022 11:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119303332#Comment_119303332

"How could they not be anything but pleased by the outcome?"

Because they are all now bogged down by having backed him and defended him through everything else. This wasn't one big scandal that they had to force him out over, it was the culmination and weight of everything that has come before. The Tories ultimately backed him over all the previous scandals, and in particular Partygate. Even with a new leader, they are tainted with his stink. That stink came after the last election, which means using the election results as evidence of how many people back the Tories is completely erroneous. They voted for the Tories then, that doesn't mean they'd vote for them now.

You don't know what the UK electorate wants. If anything, the recent by-elections have shown the opposite of what you claim. Boris Johnson leaving might win back some of those voters, but there's no guarantee of that, particularly given how much of the Tory Party and potential replacement leaders backed Boris through the very scandals that lost them voters.

ancapailldorcha · 07-07-2022 11:55AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119302371#Comment_119302371

She's been on Question Time a few times and is on the Board of a local school near where I live. Deeply unintelligent person clearly there for loyalty to Brexit and Johnson.

EltonJohn69 · 07-07-2022 11:55AM

A caretaker manager didn’t work for Manchester United, it’s not going to work for the conservatives.

ArmaniJeanss · 07-07-2022 11:58AM

He is still hoping to get out of this as PM isn't he?

I expect his resignation statement is being tweaked to be a 'commitment to resign' - possibly suggesting that there be a party VONC sometime in September.

Dempo1 · 07-07-2022 11:58AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119303380#Comment_119303380

I've seen her performances on TV and at committee hearings particularly the Channel 4 hearing, it was actually Hillarious viewing , hard to comprehend how she's got were she's got to let alone being on a school board 😏

Igotadose · 07-07-2022 12:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119303289#Comment_119303289

"We've always been at war with Eastasia."

ancapailldorcha · 07-07-2022 12:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119303396#Comment_119303396

One can only hope she's too busy rubber stamping culture war nonsense to interfere too much with that school. It's a very diverse area as well.

07-07-2022 12:07PM

Boris Johnson set to deliver his resignation speech at 12.30.

Leroy42 · 07-07-2022 12:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119303332#Comment_119303332

So were conservatives wrong when they made him leader or wrong now? Why didn't they appoint a proper conservative instead of this small c one at the last internal election?

And how can you be confident that the same people that made such a mistake last time will be correct this time. Bearing in mind that the time before they elected TM as their leader!

BonnieSituation · 07-07-2022 12:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119303231#Comment_119303231

Given how your pronouncements have gone the last few years; forgive myself and others for taking this latest one with a pinch of salt.

Dempo1 · 07-07-2022 12:18PM

Theresa May giving a speech at the Institute of Government, a tribute to the late , James Brokenshire, speaking about his legacy of decency, commitment to service inpublic life and to his former constituents.

Also of course subtlety putting the boot in

Igotadose · 07-07-2022 12:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119303494#Comment_119303494

She seems pretty happy though, based on her smiles and demeanor. As I recall, Brokenshire was no great shakes but hey, don't speak ill of the dead.

"It's not unreasonable to expect those that write the laws of the land to follow them."

"Playing by the rules means not changing them on a whim to soothe short-term needs."

Yeah, she's got the needle going good.

Dempo1 · 07-07-2022 12:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119303498#Comment_119303498

James Brokenshire seems to have been held in high regard by all sides when secretary of state for Northern Ireland, but yes she's looking quite pleased

Dempo1 · 07-07-2022 12:22PM

The usual scenes being prepared at downing Street, staff being sent out to look like fools as Boris makes his statement.

07-07-2022 12:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119303513#Comment_119303513

May got paid 100,000 pounds to deliver a speech the other week; not surprised she's on the lecture circuit.

The Guardian reported the other week that Johnson is set to make millions a year when he leaves No. 10.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/11/boris-johnson-stands-make-millions-after-no-10

gmisk · 07-07-2022 12:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119303513#Comment_119303513

Definitely agree on James Brokenshire he was liked by both sides so to speak...which is incredibly rare!

Dempo1 · 07-07-2022 12:25PM

About 20 MP's outside too, amazed so many bothering their arses.

maestroamado · 07-07-2022 12:26PM

There has been 2800 posts about him here so-far today here, he is a story.

Dempo1 · 07-07-2022 12:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119303534#Comment_119303534

And your point is 🙄

Are you outside number 10 at the moment, give us a wave 😏

Headshot · 07-07-2022 12:29PM

Wouldnt it be brilliant that after his speech everyone starts singing na na na na hey hey goodbye

AMKC · 07-07-2022 12:29PM

Not long now till he comes out and announces his resignation.

Will be cry?

I doubt it.

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