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BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? **threadbans in OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,107 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    It is not how it's done , in the House of Lords yes , Lord Helistine in outside infomal conversation or Michael to friends. Kay seems to think she's applying for a role in Dowton Abbey. I've not heard a single journalist, interviewer, ever refer to a member of the house of Lords as My Lord, My Lady when interviewing a Lord or Baroness.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,107 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,755 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Oh come on Borris just leave No.10 already. Your time is done, you will go down as one of the worst or possibly even the worst PM the UK has ever had and one of the most disastorus leaders in the World only second to the Orange Clown.

    Note not the most evil that would be Putin of World leaders or baddest just the most disastorus UK leader ever.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭macvin


    Can the thread title have a small amendment?

    Move the word "is" 6 places to the right and delete the question mark


    "the UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson is toast"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,877 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Bojo is either looking to run up an expense bill for the next few months or he thinks he can swing this back once the dust settles.

    If he's quitting I can't see why he wants to hang around while they vote a new PM in.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,684 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Personally I thought he had 2 hurdles the Covid party investigation and the May elections. I didn't think he would go for at least a year after surviving those.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,616 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,408 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    I laugh any time I think of Johnson firing Gove. It was utterly pointless, only serving as some petty gesture on his part and has made something of a martyr out of Gove. Gove is another detestable individual but I begrudgingly admire him for playing the game so well.

    As for potential leaders, Sunak or Javid would be my bet for a (relatively speaking) safe pair of hands, though they are both long-term slippery Tories. Odd not to hear much about Patel, though I imagine her close ties to Johnson may hold her back. Truss would be a car crash. I imagine she will campaign on her Foreign Office stint, sticking it to the EU and helping out Ukraine. I can't think of any other serious contenders, though the sensible thing for the Tories would be to bring in a moderate until things calm down. This is really just the beginning of the power struggle; it's going to be fun!

    As for Brexit, I don't see them going back but it is an opportunity to quietly re-align with EU standards and present them to the public as their own set of 'great' British standards. They can sell it however they want and have it put in place with a lot of fanfare. No need to admit they got it wrong, just present it as a workable solution. I doubt many people are clued in on the ins-and-outs of these regulations, they'd likely be happy if they're told they were written up by Whitehall civil servants consulting with the City's leading minds and rubber-stamped by a leading Brexiteer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    Of course Brexit won't be reversed everyone knows that.

    It would be nice though to have a PM that doesn't illegally renegade on international treaties that are already in place.

    We can only hope of course I'm not optimistic.

    Must be a sad day for all the Boris loyalist that have been cheerleading him all this time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭eastie17


    No the reason the relationship is bad is because they have no issue with ripping up a legally bindnig agreement that they lobbied for and signed, when others were on the table, and couldnt give two **** if it send Northern Ireland back 40 years to where everyone is killing everyone ele again. Its impossible to have a good reationship with a neighbour who treats you like that



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    He should have resigned immediately when he broke the Ministerial code the first time

    He should have resigned immediately when he lied to the queen for the reasons he was pro-roguing parliament so he could jam through his disaserous brexit 'deal'

    He should have resigned immediately when he pushed forward legislation that he knew was against the law 'in a limited and specific way'

    He should never have been PM in the first place

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,684 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Not sure Johnson ever actually reneged on any treaty though.

    He just kept threatening to and having his bluff called.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Times radio reporting results of yougov poll of Tory party members and Ben Wallace is top in overall preference and all run off scenarios

    but members only get to vote on the final two and he probably would not make it

    penny mordaunt and Richie sunak are two and three



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,747 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    He's chasing Tenure milestones!!

    He needs to hang on until tomorrow to have a longer tenure than Neville Chamberlain , but he needs to last another 30 odd days to have lasted longer that Theresa May..

    Also - If he goes today he's remembered in history for what he is - an incompetent self-serving venal twat who achieved absolutely nothing and failed miserably as PM.

    By staying around , he gets a chance to reframe his tenure by doing something "significant" or at the very least hobbling the public inquiry into Covid so that the details of his worst failures and corruptions remain untold.

    As always , everything he does is all about Boris.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,591 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd



    Max Hasting’s withering dissemination of Johnson’s character and his quite prescient predictions on the likely outcome a great read today.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Mad to think how Boris got away with saying stuff like below, I don’t think anyone else would, when you compare it to how much attention Corbyn got with the Jews and he never said anything like that and if he did he would have been cancelled immediately. I’m not fan of either of them, just pointing out the double standards and how much he was able to get away with.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,603 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I'd say he wants enough time to blow up the NI Protocol, be able to claim about how he finally got Brexit done and stood up to the EU, and then leave the next PM to try deal with the mess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,788 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    Boris is on the phone to threshold and the Residential Tenancies Board right now. With their assistance, he should be able to stay in The No10 apartment for 1-2 years whilst the process of eviction goes through the court of appeals.

    😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,107 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    I'm not sure what's more Vulgar and crass, Boris's appalling behaviour or all these disgusting and treacherous supporters of him now releasing statements for him to go.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    The hyperbole here is absolutely batshi7 insane and shows a deep commitment to avoiding an exploration of history.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,747 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    All of them are utterly devoid of morals.

    If the Tories hadn't been reamed in the recent by-elections they would all still be supporting him and continuing to ignore and defend all the horrible things he has always done.

    They couldn't care less about his behaviour , they only care about his ability to keep them in their jobs.

    Simple as that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,603 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Agreed. There's no way they can claim any moral high ground when most of them voted in his favour in the recent vote of no confidence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,107 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,684 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I don't see it. Parliament has its recess and you're assuming that the party in power which would have to deal with the consequences would vote for said consequences. He just doesn't want to be out in less time that May was.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,107 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Nadine Dorries, struggling to offer a comment

    crazy-cuckoo.gif


    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Steve Baker is seriously considering running for prime minister, saying that many in the party are "imploring" him to run. He'd be one of my preferred choices.

    Far better him than someone like Liz Truss or Ben Wallace.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Not at all.

    As I said earlier, this is a very positive and upbeat day for the Conservatives; a fresh, new leader to deliver a conservative agenda until December 2024, and then defeat Keir Starmer at the next election.

    Today is a bad day for the Labour Party, but they don't seem to be aware of that yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,107 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Boris about a new Cabinet 🙄

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    So what was wrong with Boris, that they need a fresh new leader.

    A few days ago you were an avid supporter. What exactly has changed?



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I agree. The British people are conservative. They need a reason to not vote conservative, or they naturally will. Boris became that reason

    there has not been a true Labour Party in power in decades. Blair’s ‘new labour’ doesn’t count…..they were middle of the road conservative in all but name

    Only thing is whether David McWilliams is right and that the big picture pendulum is swinging back, after 49 years, to favour labour over capital. I do think that there is an element of truth in that which could strengthen labour’s arm in coming years



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