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Galway traffic

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  • Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    More permeability works

    Interestingly enough, if you look at this spot on streetview, you'll see how poor it currently is and yet someone is managing to push a wheelchair along it. If you've ever pushed these you'll know its no joke on anything thats not a good surface.



  • Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Will we see red light cameras here soon? Wouldn't go amiss to be honest and would reduce danger on the roads




  • Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Possibility of night time bus services when the GTS comes up for review. Long overdue




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,314 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Only 13 years that residents have been waiting for that in Salthill. I know Council doing up another laneway in Shantalla at the minute as well. That one is paved, might only be adding murals to the walls. Between the Higgins site and Scoil Bhride



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,671 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    The lights on the Tuam Road into Liosbaun and Riverside need updating. Crazy system where they go green for traffic turning right out of Riverside, Green for town bound for all of 10 seconds then Red again for the solitary pedestrian crossing. Most of the time left turning traffic coming out from Liosbaun or Riverside never notice when the flashing amber left sign is off and nearly drive straight into crossing pedestrians. Also no help for pedestrians crossing the riverside or Liosbaun exits. It's massively inadequate for what those roads are now.

    This too shall pass.



  • Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This is all I could find re: Red Lane

    Hopefully they're going to do resurfacing too as it looks to be in bits from the pics

    Edit: It looks like it may get a makeover as part of the development of the lands beside it




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,691 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    This statue at Red Lane entrance used to freak me out as a kid

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,590 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    The whole concept of laneways is rapezone-creepy. They should either be turned into roads with houses overlooking, or closed totally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    You can just not use them you know? Leave the rest of us to it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    It's owned by Higgins's from what I can gather and they're working with the Council to get it renovated and attract more usage. Fair play to them. A lot of others would have tried to monetize it somehow or just block it off from the community



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,314 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Fair play alright, looks like there proposed Development at the old hardware store is going to make it a big feature of the Development. Like seeing this kind of Development on brownfield sights.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,069 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    If only there was some way to effectively manage and deter illegal parking, such as ticketing, clamping or towing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,069 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    You’ve clearly outlined the kind of culture change that account is working hard to bring about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,590 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    And where do you expect people to park instead in this case?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,069 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Why would it be my problem to find storage space for the private property of some people?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,314 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    site not sights!

    The Red Lane is sight to behold though as I was passing along on Shantalla Road today in the sunshine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,671 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    In their own driveways. Let them find other means of coming into town.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    If people know parking laws are going to be enforced, and they are likely to be hit with an €80 fine if they park illegally, they find other alternatives. If I'm going to Dublin by car, to go to Croke Park or 3Arena, I either pre-book parking in the city centre or arrange with friends in Lucan to leave my car at their house and get the bus in.

    I was talking to a Belgian family last week who live a few km from the site of a major annual music festival there. When the festival is on they and their neighbours get requests from friends and acquaintances, who are travelling to the festival, wanting to leave cars at their houses so they can cycle the rest of the way. They know that if they leave their cars at the side of the road at random they will pay dearly, so they don't do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,590 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Yeah, so people coming to a funeral in Renmore should find "other ways" of getting there. 🙄That's fine for those who are coming from the city and not going to the cemetery. But it totally ignores that many are coming from out of town.

    We need to stop building inadequate infrastructure.

    Fixing problems is not simply a matter of whipping out the parking and putting in cycle lanes. Residents know this, and will continue to oppose simplistic proposals.



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  • Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Basically any solution that doesn't involve bikes is fine, right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭?Cee?view


    I think the point she is making is very clear. "...stop building inadequate infrastructure". Couldn't be more clear.

    Cycle lanes are only of use to cyclists. Infrastructure is needed for all road users.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    That's not actually true. Cycle lanes bring many benefits to wider society.

    1) the more safe cycling infrastructure you have the more people who don't currently cycle feel confident enough to give it a try.

    2) if cycle lanes are safe, more kids can cycle to school/sports/etc. themselves and don't need to be chauffeured.

    3) by making local journeys by bike more attractive than getting into a car, bike lanes have been demonstrated to increase spending in local businesses.

    4) the more useable bike lanes you have the more separation there is between people on bikes and motor vehicles. Resulting in fewer conflicts, fewer overtaking manoeuvres, and freer flowing motor traffic.

    5) all of the above promotes displacement of shorter journeys from cars to bikes, meaning those who still need to drive experience less congestion.

    6) safer cycle lanes also means that those who find drivers too intimidating on the roads, so that they use the footpath instead, will leave the footpath to those actually walking if they have safe cycle lanes to use.

    7) bike rides replacing some car journeys also means less pollution, less road maintenance expenditure, improved health outcomes leading to less pressure on health services, even improved educational outcomes (kids who walk or cycle to school perform measurably better than those who are driven).

    When cycling infrastructure is safe and extensive, the majority of people become cyclists for at least some of their journeys, and this also has many indirect benefits for the minority who never cycle.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,590 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Thanks for the sermon.

    No one is saying there shouldn't be dedicated lanes for two-wheelers (bicycles, scooters etc).

    But outside a church or sports venue, as in this example, you cannot just removing parking in favour of "cycle lanes" - because that is just designed for bad parking. ( I live a largely car-free lifestyle, but funerals are one type of event that I often need to rent a car for.)

    Design needs to cater for both modes, and cars will not just evaporate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    Well done on (yet again) conjuring up a strawman argument to rebut when something is posted that you don't like but you can't legitimately argue against.

    My 'sermon' was a response to a very specific statement only: "Cycle lanes are only of use to cyclists."

    It made no mention of Renmore, nor did it make a claim that design doesn't need to "cater for both modes". I actually did the opposite as two of the points I listed were specifically about how bike lanes can improve travel for those driving motor vehicles.

    As for your claim that cars will not just evaporate; in reality traffic evaporation is a well understood phenomenon and has been for decades. If road capacity drops the number of car journeys also drops and usage patterns flatten as those drivers who have the flexibility drive at quieter times or consolidate journeys, do so. The number of cars on the road can reduce too. I know quite a number of families in Galway, including my own, who have already migrated from being two car families to one car plus bikes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭?Cee?view




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    If you want to post a reasoned disagreement to anything I've written I'll happily engage. But if all you've got is snide comments then I guess you should look closer to home to find out who is really relying on dogma rather than evidence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭?Cee?view


    Sorry, you misunderstood. I've no interest in posting anything disagreeing with you. Complete waste of time. You can keep on posting your manifesto on how cycle lanes will save us all, but you shouldn't be surprised when you're not taken seriously other than by your fellow travellers here, and the handful of cycling crusaders active online in Galway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    I think most people are just sick of spending their lives sitting in traffic. It would be nice to try things that have been shown to help for once instead of just continually trying the same things that got us in this mess in the first place.



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  • Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I know quite a number of families in Galway, including my own, who have already migrated from being two car families to one car plus bikes.

    Same. The father said to me the last day he hasn't driven the car in months around the city and is seriously looking at getting rid of it. GoCar makes more sense for him for the handful of times he actually needs to drive anywhere. Since I got him Ortlieb pannier bags, he hasn't used the car for a single shopping trip.

    Other family in the city have gone from 2 cars down to one and are close to ditching that last one too but thats dependent on a job move that may or may not happen.

    Other family out in Oranmore have also gone from 2 to 1 car with one of the parents using an ebike to get in and out of Galway every day for work, he loves it. He reckons when the safe bike lanes go in on the Coast rd/Dublin Rd they'll ditch the last car, though the kids might be grown and off to college by the time that actually gets built, sigh.

    I have nieces and nephews, some living out the country, some living in the city. The ones in the city have vastly more freedom due to being able to cycle wherever they need to while the rural kids need mom or dad to drive them, severely restricting their freedom. Heck even calling over to a friends house is a case in logistical planning lol.

    Its slowly getting better in Galway, very slowly, for safe active travel alternatives that don't involve the car. We've a long way to go until its truly safe though



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