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Near Misses Thread Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭seanino


    Nearly got ended on Saturday going through city centre. Was going straight through Samuel Beckett bridge southbound. Some idiot in an suv beside me decided to turn left literally as I was at his passenger window. Anyway I braked and his car hit off my shoe/ankle so no damage done but was a close one. He pulled in when he saw me looking back so I did a u turn and cycled down to him expecting an "are you ok/sorry about that". Instead he was adamant it was my fault as he had indicated (fairly sure no indicator on) and I shouldn't have been on left when he was turning left!! Anyway as you all know he was completely in the wrong. Dont think he saw me or looked in the mirror and if he did I have right of way. Remember I was as far as his passenger window when he went to go left. I took a pic of his reg and him - anywhere I can report this? If he had apologised and admitted his mistake Id have let it go but he was ranting, even going on about cyclists owning the road etc. Another dangerous idiot behind the wheel not knowing rules of road.

    Thanks

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭hesker


    Yes, report it. It helps that he actually did hit you so you can’t be fobbed off on that front

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,990 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    You can report it to the gardai but without video, don't expect them do do much unfortunately (even with video, it needs to be fairly bad for them to react).

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭seanino


    What camera is that? - need to get one asap. Too many incidents

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭seanino


    Ok thats good to know. Rang the traffic hotline there and they fobbed me off to the closest station to samual beckett bridge which is store street.

    did you go into station or call on phone?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭seanino


    I also called traffic watch and was told they are only putting it into an excel. Not sure why she bothered taking the details - if I call the station now Im doing her job!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭seanino


    Update : rang garda station there. Need to go in person. Garda said traffic watch is useless which seems to confirm my experience :)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    It's such an arse of a system having to report in person, what if you were passing through and had cycled home a good distance. It's literally as many obstacles as possible in the hopes of everyone dropping the report.

    I had a similar instance on the quays last night with a left turning van that side swept me in the cycle lane with no indicator and hit my hand and only for I turned left with the van would probably be under it. Rang traffic watch and reported the case and about 2 months later got a call from a garda in Bridewell St who was forwarded the case. He declared there was no cctv covering the busy junction and since it was so long since past anyway they wouldn't be able to retrieve it. Furthermore and more comically he said the van was registered down the country and likely wouldn't be used to Dublin traffic so I guess that gave them carte blanche for nearly running over another road user.

    At least calling traffic watch there's a report of the case and it's sent to the corresponding station eventually but all pot luck if the investigating garda is actually interested in following up.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Breezer


    I won’t provide maps because it’s so close to home, but I live just off a narrow one way street that has parking down one side, and just enough room for one vehicle to pass. The entrance to this street is a crossroads, so you approach it along a two way street, cross a perpendicular road, and then you’re on the narrow bit.

    This evening, firstly, a taxi driver tried to overtake me as I’m about 10 metres from the crossroads and already slowing, on the two way street. He backs out of it.

    He then tries to overtake me on the one way street, into the line of parked cars at the side. He backs out of that too.

    The one way street widens briefly about 100 metres along, and I knew he was going to go for it again, so this time I move over and signal to him to go. He flies past… into the back of a queue of traffic maybe 20 metres ahead, sitting at a very long red light.

    I dismounted and walked the rest of the way to my house, as it’s too narrow to filter. He was still sitting there as I was going in my front door.

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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    I frequently take the lane along here. The blue car driver was sound so I didn’t take the lane in this instance.

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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    I’ve lost all hope in Lucan Gardai. They DNGAF.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,167 ✭✭✭buffalo


    I had a Garda in Lucan issue an FCPN based on what I said over the phone and, to quote the Garda, "the driver's reaction when I spoke to them". He didn't tell me what that meant, whether they admitted the close pass or were completely offensive, but the Garda never even saw my video, so pleased enough that there some action was taken.

    Wondering whether the FCPN should have been a prosecution for careless driving took away some of the pleasure though.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    No experience personally but that's the impression I get alright from the few reported cased I'd read about. The judicial system needs a serious shake up, too much subjectivity and thus grounds for appeal given the whims of some out of touch judge.

    UK looks to have a more proactive system in terms of the police issuing fines and penalty points and justice system prosecuting and convicting the more serious offenses but this recent case throws a lot of that out the window and similar to what you'd expect here with every excuse under/including the sun used:

    https://road.cc/content/news/mechanic-escapes-ban-after-cutting-corner-cyclist-293891

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,600 ✭✭✭Gaz


    This really annoyed me as I was only feet from entering the cycle lane


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭hesker


    I’ve had drivers overtake me like that and then stop dead in their lane waiting for me to pass on the inside. Invariably I stop because what the hell am I supposed to do, carry on and trust they won’t change their mind.

    So they get it half right. Pity they don’t go the whole way and avoid the overtake altogether.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,600 ✭✭✭Gaz


    I've never actually reported a close/dangerous pass, I always assumed it was a long winded and ultimately pointless exercise.

    Is there a website I can report on or do I need to visit a station ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭Arthurdaly


    Last evening I got a punishment pass whilst out solo. The van actually intentionally sped up and skimmed me by inches for maximum effect. Incident happened coming into a small village which I generally ride center lane to discourage the close passes and was probably riding close to the speed limit in any case as its slight downhill.

    Normally don't react but this was too close and very much intentional based on the face he actually increased speed and then skimmed me.

    There's lights up ahead and if red I know I will catch up with him. I pull up alongside the passenger door and from a distance ask him what the F he is playing at. He has a hammer in his hands and then starts swiping out the passenger window. I'm at a safe distance ahead and make hand gestures etc as am irate at this point.

    He has rage in his eyes and when pulls away and makes a small movement towards me in the van. I'm convinced this looney could potentially hit me with the van so want get behind the van asap.

    He swings off to the right and I continue straight. I got the registration and given his reactions still concerned he could come after me so take a detour from planned spin.

    Made a statement down the local garda station. May not pursue it but want cause this knob as much disruption as possible but given his reactions I doubt Garda turning up at his door would bother him.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭seanino


    Anyway an update on this - went to store street in person. This is after again talking to a guard on the phone who was asking me what I hope to gain from reporting this and asking if I had lights/hi vis. Was a very bright sunny day/early afternoon so that would be a no and no legal obligation to have it either during daylight. When I did go in to the station, the guard on duty took details but said as I didn't suffer an injury or damage to bike it would not go in as a traffic collision. He was mumbling something about if the guys reg came up again they would have this incident on file so nothing will come of this unfortunately. Seems you can hit cyclists and drive how you like as long as you "accidentally" do it and don't cause injury or damage the bike!

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,990 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    ^^^ so in other words, I can't be bothered dealing with your allegation - now please leave my station!

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,990 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I'd nearly be tempted to go back and ask the garda to see his sarge or even his inspector and mention how you're considering reporting his dismissive attitude to an allegation to the ombudsman

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭seanino


    tbf the guy in the station was fine . It was the guy on the phone who was dismissive and questioning everything

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,990 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    The garda in the station had a number of options to pursue the driver (both in terms of their dangerous driving and threatening behaviour) but chose the I can't be arsed approach.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭seanino


    I dont know - he doesn't process it apparently. There was dangerous driving - was told by the garda on the phone its not considered dangerous driving unless its deliberate. Like how would he know that without being there!? There seems to be a general "can't be arsed approach". I didn't hang around anyway. There were all sorts of characters there :)

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,990 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    By my understanding, you didn't even make (dictate) a statement to a garda so it will really go no further.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭seanino


    I did make a statement. Garda got back to me next day looking for date/time which I could give him exactly as I was recording the ride with GPS. What I said was he thought it would not get categorised as a traffic collision as no damage to bike/myself.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭seanino


    Yes unless cctv on samual beckett bridge. They didn't think so which is surprising considering its an important route and relatively newly built. Need a camera also - any recommendations?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭seanino


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭seanino


    At least you had footage. I might try and follow up on mine in a week. I would have thought they could have done the culprit involved in my incident as careless driving, this was never suggested :)

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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    So today I took the lane coming into Lucan from Strawberry Beds approaching a red light. Two cars overtook against incoming traffic and then stopped for the lights. I’ll post the video later.

    Stupid, ignorant ****ing ****s.

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