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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,451 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    Remind me - legally what can or can't motorists do with the various bike "lanes". I know there are different types of lanes, but are cars ever allowed to park in them, even temporarily? Sometimes I'm tempted to shout at people parked up in bike lanes but hold off in case I'm wrong and they're allowed to park out of hours or something.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    non mandatory you can stop in to load/unload if there's nowhere else free for 30 mins

    mandatory you can't stop in.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Car stopped indicating left with a wheel on the pavement here this morning blocking the bike lane, I signal to move out and to go around and while still indicating left they make a U-turn, I stop in the middle of the road and they tell me to have some patience!! I tried to explain they were blocking a cycle lane, parked opposite a white line and making a u-turn on the crest of a hill but it was all my fault! I cycled around them and then realized I hadn't turned my camera on! I'd a near miss with an An Post van 5 minutes later I'll review and see if its worth posting when I get home.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,011 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    This, although some mandatory ones have operational hours which bugs me as much as non 24 hour bus lanes. Why do it? I would probably tolerate it if it was a city wide thing where delivery trucks could operate between the hours of 4am and 6am in them for delivering when it is substantially quieter but this idea that a bus lane is needed for driving at 7pm or a bike lane becomes unnecessary (Ranelagh for example) at very wide ranging times is nonsense.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭tnegun


    An Post this morning facing the wrong direction, opposite a white line on a bad bend, starts indicating as I'm approaching then pulls across in front of me then stops, to pull in on the wrong side again!! https://streamable.com/q6038b I'm going to send this to their fleet office for comment.

    Seeing as we're talking about mandatory cycle lanes and their abuse, the silver polo straddled the lane for at least 1km as for the red car this is a common occurrence at this location usually saving just seconds if anything as there are lights at the top https://streamable.com/ykzxv6

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,451 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    Mandatory = solid white line, non-mandatory = broken white line?

    If that's the case, does that mean in the photo I posted earlier that the delivery driver was in the right?

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,580 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    if you're in the cycle lane, based on the lights there, she has the green and you don't. if you're in the road, and in the lane the camera car is in, you're in the wrong lane for proceeding straight on. if you're in the road, you need to be in the right lane there for proceeding straight on, so if she beeped at you in that instance, she should mind her own business.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,580 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i used to pass through that junction every morning when i went into work - always took the road, but it was usually quiet as i was outbound just after 7am. also, i was taking a right onto newtownpark avenue and wanted to claim my spot in the road for that.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue



    They can stop in the cycle lane, whether they can block the road is a different matter.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    It does yeah.


    I have to say the cycle lanes in Blackrock are great, they've made a huge improvement for both the cyclist and motorist.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,011 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Is that lane not a left or straight ahead as dictated by the arrows on the road. Also, and people who frequent it more often can correct me but most times I have went there the left filter had a straight ahead with it at the start of the sequence or just a full (unfiltered) green. Only the right lane is right turn only.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,011 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Maybe I am looking at the wrong picture but the one I see has a left/straight arrow in the lane, bottom left of the picture. This is the junction near St. Patricks Cathedral where you take a left to get over to Stephens Green right?

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,011 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Yep, thank goodness for that, I thought I was going insane or everyone else was

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,580 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    it's unusual, i'll give you that. i assume the design is such because it's uphill, and they didn't want to put slow moving straight on cyclists in front of motorised vehicles turning left (not trying to defend that logic, if i'm correct on it, btw)

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,011 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Took me a minute to recognise it, presume that's the one near Dun Laoghaire. In theory it's fine provided everyone follows the lights but I can see how it would be easy to miss the bike ones if your used to bike lanes falling under normal traffic lights. I'd probably use the road, although I doubt many would as anytime I pass nearby (I turn at the junction before), traffic is heavy enough.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,580 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    just take the road and let it all hang out.

    https://www.strava.com/segments/3438381

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭Seaswimmer


    The only problem with it is that the phase between orange and red for the cycle lane is really short. slower cyclists (my wife for example) often struggle to clear the junction as you are also going uphill. You could go through on green and just about make it before the main traffic starts moving again. I did email the council about it shortly after the lights went in. It was on my daily commute but not anymore so I haven't checked it recently. Maybe it has improved.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,451 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    After the comments here I ended up spending some time yesterday on my commute looking at cycle lane markings. The majority of lanes are non-mandatory, to my surprise. So what's the point if it affords cyclists no safe, unobstructed route?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,451 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    So all this pent up anger at motorists pulling into non-mandatory cycle lanes has been misdirected. Should be pointing the finger at the engineers!

    It will actually make my commutes a lot less stress inducing if I just tell myself that the driver is not in the wrong here. All those years of dirty looks at them were for nought!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    I don't want to be "preachy" at all, but if you add your voice to the many others who submit on public consultations it may help longer-term.

    The designs being proposed nowadays are not perfect, but are often far better than what was proposed a decade ago.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,891 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    It’s likely that I would have experienced a sudden bout of exhaustion immediately after passing the red car, causing me to slow down in the cycle lane.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,495 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    I don't cycle that slip road but drive it regularly. The amount of people hugging the curb blocking the bike lane because they want to turn left but they're stuck in traffic. What's with the recent trend of moving to the left of a single lane when wanting to turn? I've had people move into the bike lane to get around me as I'm moving right and speed up just to stop at the yield, I just don't get the impatience from people.

    Don't get me started on people who move right immediately after the bollards and barely let you in when you're waiting to move over after the solid white line...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,741 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    It’s in the hopes that they can miraculously slip up the inside of the lane, despite the fact there’s zero chance of there being enough room. See it all the time in East Wall, single lane that has a filter light for left turn, so if there’s any car turning right they’re getting stuck behind it, but drivers insist on making sure they’re as far over to the left as is absolutely possible

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭tnegun


    I've had several squeezes here where traffic starts to move off as you pass and then without looking they decide they can get by by using the bike lane. A bang on the roof usually sorts it out but you have to watch and be aware that it can happen at anytime.

    Some of the worst are the people skipping the queue on the M4 by using the slip they'll try stay left using the bike lane if needed and try skip to the top of the queue at the lights to continue straight back onto the M4.

    It makes it very dangerous for cyclists as they're deliberately not making their intentions obvious so that they don't get blocked off. All the while your trying to climb the hill, signal your intent to move right, look behind to ensure its clear/the driver behind is going to allow it and then the guy in front jams on blocking the lane to skip the queue!

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,580 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,580 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭tnegun


    It took me a little while to find someone in An Post to complain to, I didn't have time to try their live chat in hours so resorted to guessing email address and the way back machine to find addresses! In true Irish fashion, the response I got came from an address with an auto responder configured to say it was unmonitored!! That aside they couldn't have been more professional I got two calls to apologize one from the driver's immediate manager to say it was taken very seriously and was far below what was expected. I thanked them for the reply and said I'd be happy if they were shown the clip from my perspective and realized the dangers of their driving/parking.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,624 ✭✭✭standardg60


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,624 ✭✭✭standardg60


    After my own incident, can empathise with arriving over the handlebars. Funny how quick you can stop a bike at times!

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,580 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    nowhere near the worst i've seen on the road, but yesterday a car came round a bend towards me about two foot over the white line, with the driver clearly bent over trying to find something on the seat beside him, or even in the footwell of the passenger side of the car, so very much not with eyes on the road.

    the main reason it was noteworthy was i'm 90% certain it was my father in law.

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