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  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Still dodging the question.

    I'm focusing on graphene because it's an easy unambiguous fact that can be verified.

    The vaccines don't contain graphene oxide.

    So again why did you claim that the ingredient list was not already available?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,175 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    You said they did contain Graphine. I said I didn't see it on the list and you then used that as proof to say I didn't read the ingredients as the vaccine contains Graphine. Pure unadulterated whataboutery as usual.



  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nope. I'm trying to get you to stick to a point and breaking down and actually see if it holds any weight. As usual you're trying to weasel away because you're not able to actually defend it.


    The vaccine does not contain any graphene.

    The ingredient lists have been provided since before the vaccines were in use.

    Why is this court asking for something that is already provided?

    Why are they asking about something that isn't in the vaccines and you believe isn't relevant or dangerous even if it was?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,175 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    But you said..

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    There's a load of things you could pick from the Judges request but you've decided to get your knickers in a twist about Graphine and Secret ingredients.

    I'm not the Judge, he's made the request along with everything else on the list, do you think if I made a FOI request we could see the Pfizer contrats, why not, what is hidden, why would they hide things, is there something to hide, is the Pfizer product experimental in nature, have the governemt pushed an experiment on the people?

    Lots of questions, move on from your secret ingredients conspiracy, it's the ingrendients we do know about is where the concerns are.



  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    And I edited that and explained why and what I meant.

    I've also explained why I'm focusing on this point in particular.

    It's a clear and unambiguous point whether or not the vaccines have graphene oxide in them. (They don't.)

    The only people who claim that the vaccines contain it are anti vaxxer conspiracy theorists. The only people who are concerned about it are anti vaxxers.

    The fact this judge is asking about something that's patently false calls the whole thing into question.

    If he was asking them to prove that there isn't secret tracking chips in the vaccine it would be the same thing.

    If he was asking them to show the vaccine isn't secretly the mark of the beast...

    So you don't know why the judge is asking for something that is already freely available and not relevant.

    OK. That's great.


    What nanotechnology does the vaccine contain and why is it a concern? Why is the judge asking about it?

    Or do you not know that either?


    Again, focusing on this point. I suspect that if we start picking at any of other points in the same way, I suspect that you'd similarly want to try and deflect to a different one again.

    "Well What about this point?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,500 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    The contracts are available publicly.

    When the judge rules the vaccine as safe and effective, will you accept that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,175 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Why don't you pick some of those points and we'll find out. You can't answer some of them and those are the most relevant in my book.

    This case is about the Vaccine for children if you didn't read the report.

    I suppose we'll know Wednesday what happens next and if Pfizer, Politicians and Public servants will provide what's requested. They won't though and hopefully the injunction is successful.



  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    But I did pick one. I picked the graphene thing because it was clear and unambiguous.

    You want to weasel away from it because you can't defend it or deal with it.


    I suspect that this will be the case regardless of the point I pick.


    And again this actually is "whataboutery".


    So again:

    What nanotechnology does the vaccine contain and why is it a concern? Why is the judge asking about it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Yeah? Maybe that all happened in your head. You probably need a break as you start to generalize too much. You are either tired and confused from spending too much of a time in conspiracy forums. Or, perhaps you do it on purpose attributing stuff to people who never claimed it in order to try to discredit them but the only thing you achieve is that everyone see your dishonest poor attempt to cover up any info which does not correspond with your extreme pro vaxxer ideology (religion).



  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Still no such thing as "extreme pro vaxxers".

    You guys also keep whinging about this point. But when you are asked directly what you believe and if you believe those things, you don't answer. You dodge and avoid and give vague evasive answers. You could just say that you don't believe that stuff and it's all false. But you won't.

    You never once challenge these things when you see them. You never question other conspiracy theorists. You always pretend to be struck blind and play dumb when you're asked directly to do these things.

    Then when it suits you accept the support and back patting from those conspiracy theorists and jump in to defend them.

    You could just tell us that certain conspiracy theorists are talking out of their arses and that you think they're wrong. But you won't.


    If pointing out that this is what you're doing is "discrediting" then it's kinda your own fault.


    And of course and as always your post comes with a heaping helping of hypocrisy. You complain about people generalizing you with other conspiracy theorists, then generalize people as "extreme pro vaxxers" and claim that they all said you were a conspiracy theorist for innocently saying that ther might be boosters.

    It's silly.


    You could of course back up your generalization by showing where someone, anyone did that. But you won't.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Your god complex is unbelievable.

    So you are now whinging (your favorite misspelled word) that "how dare I am not to challenge others" when they say they believe something (which you do not obviously). Simply because I do not have opinion on such matter and and frankly because I do not care about it. I am not like you. You obviously think about yourself as some expert on everything who is sent to this planet to help guide all these Neanderthals over here. That at least is obvious from your posts and style how you present yourself.

    It is plain to see that you revert to some hypothetical generalizing nonsense when you run out of arguments.



  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    OK.

    If you don't believe thay stuff why do you always dodge when you're asked about it?

    If you don't believe thay stuff why do you never challenge or question it?


    If you have no interest in conspiracy theories, why are you posting in the conspiracy theory forum?

    If you've no interest in discussing conspiracy theories why not post you completely reasonable arguments on the medical or science forums?


    Also for the record. I've never claimed to be an expert in anything unlike folks on the conspiracy theory side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,500 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    As noted, you'd run away from them anyway, you posted what's happening, if the judicial review is successful, then surely your questions are answered for you.

    It is a funny pattern that's seen just when the loons realise they've proven themselves wrong, they run away screaming or stop engaging for a few weeks even if they don't really understand how they've done it (or just jump 2 feet into the world order/reset boat, at least those posters have the courage of their convictions).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭323


    Meanwhile in Austria, as the "vaccine" health damage and deaths accumulate, their Health Minister is now blaming doctors for not informing patients of the health risks of vaccines.

    But, sure the doctors are the perfect scapegoats, they aren’t allowed to blame the vaccines.

    Curious, are doctors in Ireland informing those they jabbed and are pushing the boosters on that these concoctions are still experimental? That they're being jabbed as voluntary trial recipient's? That the trial period runs until 2023. That these jabs have not been given full approval,anywhere?

    “Follow the trend lines, not the headlines,”



  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yup. You don't supply a link or quote directly. That's completely trustworthy.


    I'm curious why you're putting the word vaccines in scare quotes.

    They are vaccines.

    Not "so called". Not "the V". Not "vaxx". Not "needlecraft"

    They're not Voldemort either. They can't hear it when you say their name.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭323


    And across the water, in the land of the free.

    2 & 3 year old children having seizures is the "new normal".

    Doctors are baffled, it's ONLY happening to kids that have been "vaccinated", in most cases 2 to 5 days after the jab.

    Remember, you can't un-jab you kids.

    “Follow the trend lines, not the headlines,”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,507 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Yet again, no link to back it up. Buzzer is back!!

    Why should anyone believe you when you seem to only cut and paste crap from social media without references?



  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lol. So then post evidence for this.

    Show that it was due to the vaccines.


    Remember, you shouldn't believe everything a rando anon tells you on the internet with no references or evidence and who's too afraid to address any of the points or questions put to him.

    It would be an extremely fucked up thing to base a child's healthcare decisions on...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Fr0g


    Distraction. Did you read the The Lancet study that said efficacy was less 40% and went quickly towards zero and after a short period? Are you happy giving this to children who don't need it?




  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lol. There's that Israeli news source again.

    The last time some one posted something from that site, it turned out that they were misquoting the paper.

    Why aren't you linking the paper directly.


    Oh and lol, just checked, doesn't actually say anything about vaccine efficiency. Shock.

    And that article doesn't even link to the study it's talking about.

    Did you read that study? Or did you just read this article about the study?


    Also, distraction. Did you not read the other paper from the Lancet that was posted?

    This one:

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00320-6/fulltext



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,465 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Meanwhile on boards.ie someone, is dropping random scurrilous rumours into the thread and seems unable to figure out how to copy and paste any sources, evidence, attribution. Because there is no real evidence or they would provide it.

    Other posters challenge their lies, they run away and come back with another scurrilous rumour.

    So really has the same status as the drunk in the corner shouting away to himself.

    You are a spreader of scurrilous rumours and anti vaxx disinformation and lies about medical issues. Complete and utterly dishonest poster of garbage, trash, and lies.

    All your posts should come with a warning: SPREADER OF FAKE NEWS

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Subscribers Posts: 43,413 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    I see we're in the realm of "fictional writing" again....

    As the massive goblin trudged over the hill, the intense fear in the villagers eyes was only matched by the determination on our hero's face as he swung high and fast with the magic sword.......

    Post edited by sydthebeat on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,175 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Nice to see a bit of honesty from a politician...and @1.45 what side effects can people look forward to they aren't aware of yet but the FDA are?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1542680255500111872?cxt=HHwWgMC-8Zrh2egqAAAA



  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    And now you're straight up link dumping as well.

    From Tucker Carlson no less...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,175 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Tucker says very little it's the president doing all the talking, touches on some of the subjects you won't which will appear in court.

    What are these side effects people can look forward to?



  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yea, but Tucker's a lying ****. So who would believe anything from his twitter feed or his propaganda show?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,175 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Nobody is asking you believe Tucker, again it's the president doing all the talking.

    You guys have a real hatred for someone speaking honestly. It's sad your still in the denial stage, it's ok take your time, it's not easy to admit you've been made a mug out of.



  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nope. We just don't swallow stuff of of twitter because it's being sold to us by obvious grifters.


    You might as well be quoting Alex Jones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,175 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Ah the president and his medical experts are Grifters now, lol they really done a good job on you.

    It's amazing they could see an FDA flagged future safety concern but you and your buddies at the good information project couldn't. Amazing really.



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  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No, Tucker Carlson and the types like him are grifters.

    You guys keep trying this silly kiddie tactic...


    Do you not realise that you've once again shot yourself in the foot by posting something from him?



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