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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    McMurtry Spéirling smashing Goodwood Hill record. It beat the VW ID R, which people thought was going to be as good as it gets this year.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,990 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Watched it. Incredible speed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭cannco253


    nothing new really, but ……

    Reuters reported last week that Toyota Motor Corp's (7203.T) head lobbied the Japanese government to make clear it supported hybrid vehicles as much as zero-emission battery electrics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭Fitz II



    BMW I3 is discontinued to make way for the new ix1. Shame really i3 is still a great city car, a totally origional and inovative design and platform. Still holds up today.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,829 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    A right looker, some v happy owners here, even of the hybrid model



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I seen a piece on it the other day. The 250,000th car had just rolled off the production line.

    A great city car, could handle the long runs but was a bit twitchy at motorway speeds.

    BMW’s fastest accelerating car to 30 mph for a while 👀

    Handled like a go kart!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,630 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    A great car supposedly, and one I would probably have owned, had it not been for it being a 4 seater.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭Fitz II


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    My one, great little car, maybe a bit too hard on the suspension but super round town.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I feel like the i3 was a bit too innovative for its time. If they'd made it a 5 seater, put normal doors on the rear and gone with a slightly less odd looking front it would have been much better

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭handpref


    People went out of their way to hate on the i3- the whole hybrid - Rex thing didn’t help, anyone who has driven one can appreciate it for what it is. It was maybe indeed too innovative for its time.

    161- Rex only cost has been 2 x €140 services for oil change + tyres. Car came with service pack for first 3 years. It does 100km per day on the battery.

    Now at 163,000km’s, battery just out of its warranty at 160k with no loss of range. Still pulls like a train.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,829 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Great looking car, the quirkiness is what makes it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    My mother wants to upgrade her car (2012 Yaris), and I desperately want to get her into an EV, and wold fcuking love to get her into an i3...


    Obviously though changing cars right now is a bit of a non starter.....



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,829 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    See that from today in the UK all charge points for the home (plus work) need to be smart and likely pre-configured for off peak use. This is a sales perspective not installation so may be some "dumb" charge point bargains to be had...

    Drivers warned as all new electric car chargepoints must have ‘smart functions' from today (msn.com)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Bit of a black eye for Glastonbury and other festivals which are supposedly climate friendly

    £50 to slow charge your car for 1 hour from a diesel generator 😱

    I'll never complain about Ionity prices again...

    This does seem a fairly wide ranging problem, diesel generators seem pretty ubiquitous wherever there's no grid available


    I remember walking through phoenix park last year and the council had put in extra lighting around the paths, each light pole with a dirty diesel generator spewing smoke out everywhere

    My guess is that the main driver is cost and wide availability of diesel generators versus a battery bank, plus to some extent plant hire companies not being bothered to change


    For the example of EV charging at a festival, that charging truck that Porsche were showing off a few years ago would have been perfect.

    For smaller applications, there really need to be some push to have batteries instead of generators. I've even seen a few power trailers which integrate batteries, a small generator and solar panels so you get the best of everything

    Having batteries attached is good for the generator too, since it means it can be run at it's most efficient setpoint to charge the battery, instead of often underloading it which causes problems down the line

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,022 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Wouldn't the rest of the festival be run on generators too?

    The AA said they were for emergency/recovery only.. and priced so expensive as to discourage use? Eg arrive with enough to get you back to a charge point.. like you would with a ice car



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    But what if the car has the smart charging function, having both active can be a headache unless they are properly synchronised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,788 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Thinking about the names of certain EVs and how they're numbered

    Tesla Model 3

    Hyundai Ionic 5

    Kia EV6

    All are large cars, makes me wonder, will they all be introducing smaller cars in the future with lower numbers

    eg. Kia EV1, Hyundai Ionic 1, Tesla model 1, Toyota BZ1X etc

    Not an opinion, or a promise... Just my random EV though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Yeah, but there's a lot of low hanging fruit at a festival that you could move away from generators

    Lighting is an easy one, instead of having a 3kW generator attached to a 400W lighting pole, you could have a couple of battery which can be swapped out and charged elsewhere

    If you think of the smaller tents that use power they tend to fall into 3 types, selling drinks, selling food or selling junk. So for power requirements you're looking at fridges, tills, lights and potentially some cooking (don't think wood fired pizza is going electric anytime soon). Power requirements aren't huge, so a box trailer with batteries and a small ground mounted solar PV array, with a small generator for backup would probably power a bunch of those tents for the whole festival

    Or if any of those businesses in the tents were particularly forward thinking they might have an EV with V2L capability onboard 😀

    The biggest consumers of power are probably the music stages, lots of high powered lights, screens and speakers. From what I could find you're looking at power draws from hundereds to thousands of kVa, often from multiple generators running in parallel at partial load so they can pick up full load if one fails

    So definitely a harder one to unstick from diesel, but there's some possibilites. That Porsche trailer for example has 2.1MWh of storage onboard and can supply something like 2MW of power. A couple of trailers like that could run alongside the generators, so you could run 1 generator at it's most efficient load and use the batteries for load management or backup power if the generator fails, giving you time to bring a second generator online

    As for EV charging, I think a festival like Glastonbury is a perfect event to showcase EVs and frankly car companies should have been all over the organisers to provide a charging trailer or something

    Of course it's a bit questionable talking about CO2 emissions of a festival when the biggest damage to the environment is caused by the thousands of people being in one place.

    There needs to be a bit of realism there that festivals will happen anyway, so it's best to try and look at ways of mitigating the damage, like requiring all food and drink containers to be compostable, having an army of litter pickers to clean up, good crowd control to ensure people don't wander and wreck areas outside the festival grounds, and maybe even providing good public transport options so people don't need to bring the car in the first place

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    The only reason the Model 3 is called the Model 3 is because they couldn't name it the Model E, as they wanted 'E' to complete the line up of Tesla being S3XY cars.... so the 3 is just an E backwards....

    These were actually sold by Tesla;

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,400 ✭✭✭Fingleberries


    According to internet rumours and discussion boards, to make the model naming even less subtle, Tesla wanted to call the Model 3 the Model E but Ford objected because it might cause confusion with the Model T (yep, the one from 1908).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I heard Ford had already copyrighted the name, it was supposed to be for an electric Focus or Fiesta or something

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,829 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Telsa agreed with Ford years back (around Roadster time) that they would not use Model E, then changed their mind, then Ford reminded them, then Tesla relented. Ford don't use it either, it's Model e they use



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭zg3409


    I was at a boutique festival in the UK. The lighting they used had a long string of lights miles long for the pathway. They were firstly controlled by a daylight sensor so they turned off during the day. Then they were powered by a battery bank which was supplied from a generator. I believe the intention was that overnight the generator could be powered down, and that the overnight services could be run from battery. The same supply could in theory provide AC to low power users. From what I saw the generators never stopped all night. Typically at festivals even if a high power grid connection is possible it's not used due to cost, and most music stages want their own generator in case of power cuts or power overloads mid concert.

    From a festival charging point of view it's nice they offered an option, if expensive. Often local chargers would become overly busy at peak times creating queues, particularly near rural festivals. I have no issue with charging an electric car with a dirty source if no other option is available. I keep 2 ICE at the house and one EV as I can rely on getting a public charge. I will be selling one ICE soon, but I think we will long term become a one EV one classic car ICE household partly due to charging networks and partly due to insurance/tax/ cost of motoring. We specifically moved home to reduce the commute and transport costs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭innrain


    I saw Applegeen applied for another coffee drive-thru with 4 HPC chargers in Rathcoole, on M7 outbound

    https://planning.agileapplications.ie/southdublin/application-details/62272

    Is the chargers war starting considering Circle K just announced one on the other side of the road or is just Applegreen way of pushing these coffee joints? If the former should we expect another hub at J7/M9 Paulstown?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Bit of both I suspect, it's good to see more operators getting online with proper hubs. Public charging is obviously starting to make commercial sense

    Personally I'm just happy to see some drive thru coffee, having a charging hub attached is just icing on the cake

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    CATL aiming to release an 800V battery which supports charging at 10C, to put that in perspective an 80kWh pack that could charge at 560kW would recharge from 10% to 80% in just 6 minutes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,391 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    I wouldn't have enough time to go to the toilet and buy a hape of junk in the shop at those speeds 😔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Lads still won’t be happy until an EV comes out with a range of 1,000 km because that’s what their Passat does…



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