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General Premier League Thread 2022-23 - mod note in OP 12/03/23

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Fattybojangles


    Ah come on the Bundesliga where the second placed teamed lost 2 legs to Rangers or LaLiga where Barcelona had an abysmal year the quality of the subs available to those teams is nowhere near the quality available to Chelsea Liverpool city etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,035 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Just waiting now for Newcastle to buy so many players they need those extra subs to keep everyone happy

    ******



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,758 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    Yes and he won't be complaining about the 5 subs then!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,758 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Comparing leagues is to see the influence of the 5 subs in that league, not compare premier league sides to sides in other leagues like for like.

    Within the context of their leagues Barcelona are much stronger than an Elche or Cadiz or Granada. Subs like Lenglet, Memphis, Dest, Ferran Torres, Eric Garcia are way ahead of what Elche have in their squad.

    The reality for the likes of Leeds and Forest is that points against the top sides in the league will be rare regardless of subs and it is the teams much closer to them in the table they will need to be beating. As seen with Leeds last season as they were crippled with injuries more options to manahe their squad may actually help them with the very busy schedule either side of the world cup.

    Edit: if we were comparing teams across leagues a Leeds or Bournemouth will routinely spend amounts far in excess of what a Granada or Osasuna can so the gaps within the leages for the haves and have nots are relatively comparable.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,111 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Lads like Jota, Bobby or Hendo are gonna be in your first 3 coming on. And ultimately, if your best guys weren't able to break down a stoic team, what makes you think the 4th and 5th choice backups will? Nah, consistently the reason the poorer teams fall away at the end of games is pure exhaustion. We see it week in week out. This at least let's them get a couple extra bodies in that are fit and firing.

    And sure even beyond that - you keep talking about this as some construct to help the big teams. They're already putting those teams away no bother, routinely breaking the 90 point barrier right now anyway, so to be honest any change (especially one that has been proven right across Europe to not have you effect you seem to think it will), is worth a try. I've a feeling we'll see more sides manage to hang on for a draw against the big guns as a result anyway.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Fattybojangles


    Maybe I will maybe I won't but it is nice to see you acknowledge that it benefits those teams with bigger/better squads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,110 ✭✭✭jacool


    Now that the embarrassing Newcastle third jersey has actually been acknowledged as being a thing, here's hoping that

    a) Newcastle have enough backbone to minimise the amount of times they have to wear it and

    b) Newcastle fans have enough cop-on not to buy the bloody thing.

    Really don't want to see that in the Premier League this coming season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,952 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    You mean the Saudi Arabia kit not the Newcastle one don't you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,758 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    I never acknowledged anything, I was just merely pointing out that football fans notoriously change their opinions when it involves their own clubs!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Fattybojangles


    They sure do which probably goes some way to explain why all Liverpool fans on here are so in favour of the 5 subs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,758 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    Are Liverpool fans the only fans in favour of it and have they been against it in the past and suddenly changed opinion on it? The point I was making that football fans will be against anything until it suits them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭doc_17


    As a Liverpool fan, I’m not in favour of it. I wasn’t in favour of allowing 5 subs on the bench either as it gave big clubs the chance to stockpile the best players by keeping them involved in match day squads. This 5 subs thing is the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭eigrod


    A major benefit of the expansion of the number of match day squad players allowed and this new 5 subs rule is it gives young homegrown players a taste of the big time and an opportunity to get a little game time at the top level. And that can only be a good thing for all clubs. Klopp has given a lot of homegrown players that opportunity in cup and league games over the past 5 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Fattybojangles


    Salah signs new contract.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,111 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    To be honest I'm not bothered about it at all... I wanted it for the season before last as a really obvious way of combatting the shrunken season, and I think it makes sense for this coming season for the same reason - 2 seasons that cram the same number of games into far fewer weeks.

    But under normal circumstances - the status quo clearly helps Liverpool. Been hitting 90+ points in 3 of the last 4 years, so it's way more likely that any change will disrupt that than help it (as the evidence all across Europe has shown already). In those many, many games 'Pool have pulled a win out of the bag in the last 5 or 10 minutes, I'd much rather not see 2 pairs of fresh opposition legs coming on to shore things up.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭augustus gloop


    That Newcastle 3rd kit is a windup is it? That’s disgusting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Not really, what else would you expect? It’s blatant Sportswashing so no point in being subtle!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,876 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    Kevin De Buryne & Virgil Van Dijk together on holidays in Ibiza. They've previously mentioned that they are friends, as their kids go to school together and live near each other.

    The modern footballer is much different to the ones in the late 90s / early 00s. And to be honest I think I prefer it. They are normal humans too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Wonder if Ronaldo gave Ten Haag the week to see what he though of him and then came to the conclusion that Ten Haag wasn’t the answer either?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Fattybojangles


    I'd say Ten Hag doesn't want Ronaldo at all and this leaking from Ronaldo is him trying to save face.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,227 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Ten Hag has yet to speak to Ronaldo. He didn't speak to any player before starting preseason last Monday and will only meet the internationals for the first time today. So I highly doubt it's anything to do with ten Hag. It's simply Ronaldo being Ronaldo and wanting to be at a CL club with a chance of winning silverware. His ego couldn't take playing in the EL.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭PGL


    Hi guys. Apologies in advance if this question is not allowed, or if I am asking it in the wrong thread (its my first time in this private group). Does anyone have good contacts for Man Utd tickets? Preferably Old Trafford tickets, but not against attending a few away matches too.

    Thanks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Ronaldo a no-show today. This is good for Utd, even if they won’t admit it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,344 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    100%, his ship has sailed and he is not the future of the club. Thank you and good night tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,029 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    Philips supposedly getting 200K a week at City - he's a good player, but seriously , its probably nothing to City as they go about buying another league.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭doc_17


    200k a week for 6 years…..over £60m in wages.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭Brendan Flowers


    Where are you seeing that he's getting 200K per week? I just did a quick search and all I'm seeing is 150K. But even at that, none of the articles I saw are sources I'd trust.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Scoundrel


    I've not seen it reported as being that high but even if it was its nowhere near as ludicrous as Man Utd giving Sancho 350k a week.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,110 ✭✭✭jacool


    . . . . . as every ex-professional says, repeatedly "Its only a short career"

    How would Sancho survive if he broke his leg now and had to live off that 18,000,000 for the rest of his life?



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