Mod Note Post #1 - The 2022 All Ireland Senior Football Championship.

Would the rest have score 5 goals v Clare? Quite possibly if they were inclined to go for goals I'd say. But it's guesswork really isn't it?

The concern would be that on other days against a less porous defence goal scoring might not be so reliable. While on the face of it 18 scores is decent its unusual that almost a third of them were goals. Realistically they'll probably have to threaten 18 points to have a realistic chance of winning their other games. And that's before adding a goal or two.

That's all that was being said. Not that they didn't play well on Sunday.

It's a lot of ifs and maybes. Team A beating team B by 5 points and team C beating team B by 10 points does not mean team C will beat team A by 5 points.

Not sure there's too many ifs and maybes to be honest. Reasonable comparison with two counties (Dublin & Kerry) who played teams at least as good as Clare at the weekend and racked up a far bigger number of scores. Now, maybe Derry are set up in a way (defensively solid) that scoring less won't matter as much but I did think 13 points was a low enough total in a game where Derry played well.

Different teams play differently against each other and then there are pressure factors like Limerick in a final against Kerry. Each game also has its own story when it comes to how much a team need to push on.

Kerry beat a team that beat a team and Dublin beat a team that are probably better than a team who lost to Derry isn't much to go on.

Are Kerry and Dublin better than Derry yes they very likely are. Is it proven by last week's "evidence" no.

It was like one of those early 1900’s score Lines. Derry just ended up having fun. It was slightly different to the game Dublin played against Kildare. In that Dublin had to be wary of the Kildare firepower.

But the games were similar in that both games were killed early on as contests. It was more of a novelty for Derry than it is for Dublin to be coasting against lesser teams in CP. So could hardly blame Derry for just having fun. Derry crowd were loving it as well.

I got to say though having seen Clare and Cork. Munster is a ridiculously handy province for the champions elect, and bookies favourites Kerry.

IMO Munster football is weaker than even Leinster overall. And having a div1 team there with the best panel in the country really highlights the inequity of the provincials system.

It is even worse when looking at the treacherous route Derry have taken in Ulster.

Okay, so they just weren't bothered to score more because they weren't needed? Yeah, probably keeping their cards close to their chest. Interesting theory. Not sure it's a "silly debate" by the way - seems reasonable to me. If Dublin scored just 13 points against Cork people would probably be surprised. In fact they scored 11 points in the second half alone. Mayo were considered poor against Kerry and scored 13 points too. That's the standard by which teams will be judged. Its hardly silly. Not even remotely silly I think. Just thought it was a point worth making. Not everyone has to agree.

You could make an argument that Ulster is the weakest province because if you put the strongest team from any of the other provinces into it they would be hot favourites to win it every year. A Dublin in Ulster for a few years and it would be equally as bad as the Leinster championship. A Kildare or a Meath or even a Westmeath would be very competitive in the Ulster Championship.

Ulster is overhyped, there are teams of similar ability in it which makes it competitive but there are no really outstanding teams in it that would consistently challenge for All Irelands like Kerry, Dublin and Mayo from the other 3.

TV crew set up in the Nally. Don't know about the rest

The 4 provincial champions making up the semi's so maybe the the provincial championship system isn't as antiquated as many would have us believe.

Galway should beat Derry if they have learned their lessons. They did everything they could the last day to allow Armagh back into the game, again and again. And ended up staggering over the line.

Personally I think kerry should squeeze past Dublin unless the Dubs can score 2 or 3 goals. They won't win without goals.

If that comes to pass it'll give us a Kerry Galway final, there normally great games. Like that QF years ago in an absolute deluge.

I have always defended Gaelic Football and backed that by saying every game evolves, I found Donegals approach interesting under McGuinness and was a means to an end and was happy when a team like Dublin adopted a more adventurous approach.

I find today's Ulster final very hard to defend. When you have a sell out crowd present and you can hear people having conversations there is something wrong with the product. Styles make fights and Donegal mir

Jesus christ. Mad to think someone would be bothered doing that, like where would you find the time even. Mind boggling

Just saw this article from an ‘Ulster Gael’ claiming victimhood

It really annoyed me as it ignores the main issue at hand. A culture of getting away with it because of the GAA disciplinary system. But instead plays the politicised victimhood card based on a minority of fools online. So now shameful behaviour is now justified when it is politicised ?

I was just thinking that my own county Dublin never had the ‘luxury’ of playing the politicised victimhood card in 1983 CP v Galway, 2006 v Tyrone in Omagh, and 2008 v Meath in Parnell. Or when claims of Dublin eye gouging 2015 AIF and 2016 v Donegal in NFL -

Dublin did not have the luxury’ of playing the poor persecuted ‘Ulster Gael’. Which still seems to be the fashion rather than looking at the facts themselves. The ‘poor me’ - Ulster Gael shtick is a well worn path at this stage.

Isn’t it about time they ‘catch themselves on’? People slag off the Kerry yerra. But Jayus the ‘Ulster Gael’ loves the persecution/victimhood card. A whole other level

Who me ref? Then they play the ‘poor me’ Ulster line.

It sickens me anyway the ‘poor me’ - politicised ‘Ulster Gael’ stuff is a embarrassing. Whatever happened to playing football within the rules?

It seems implied when an Ulster team goes way beyond the rules of the game. It is ‘the South’s fault’ really ?

Before seeing that article I was definitely picking Derry as my ‘second team’ in the semi finals. Like their organisation, get the last drop out of it. Some flair players in spine Rodger’s, Glass, McGuigan. Great heart in the team.

But after seeing such Ulster Gael persecution complex guff. it makes me tend to veer towards the men from the West.

The only GAA politics out West in Galway, is Hurling v Football. And claims that Corofin football is wearing out Daithi Burke for Turloughmore and the Galway hurlers etc. Normal GAA stuff!

We all were. In fairness I'm pretty shocked NAGDEFY was one of them. Very active here and I'm almost certain he used argue with some of those other banned accounts.