Strange New Worlds 1x08 - 'The Elysian Kingdom' ~~ { Spoilers Within }

DoctorEdgeWild · 27-06-2022 08:41AM

Not really an episode for me, but I know there is a lot of love out there for mirror universe/holodeck/alien dream thingy episodes so fair enough. It was always going to happen and at least it wasn't Dr. Crusher making love to a ghost candle level of bad.

Surprised they ended the Rukiya storyline like that. I actually thought it was going a different way once the Doc missed out on his duties in favour of searching for the cure. Was hoping it would be a Babylon 5 Garibaldi/Alcoholism story arc where the doctor became more and more obsessed with the cure as time was running out and the moral dilemma that would have posed when the crew's safety came second. There is a lot there a writer could work with to make some hard hitting episodes.

No doubt the cast enjoyed themselves though, so at least there's that!

AMKC · 28-06-2022 11:58AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119255527#Comment_119255527

Was hoping it would be a Babylon 5 Garibaldi/Alcoholism story arc where the doctor became more and more obsessed with the cure as time was running out and the moral dilemma that would have posed when the crew's safety came second. There is a lot there a writer could work with to make some hard hitting episodes.

You mean more like Babylon DR. Stephen Franklin story arc where he became obsessed with finding a cure that had never been found or even like Doctor Bashir trying to find a cure for the plague the Dominion had caused on a planet that disobeyed them or other ones where he could not find a cure.

DoctorEdgeWild · 28-06-2022 03:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119261174#Comment_119261174

Yes, all similar examples, the moral dilemma being putting his daughter's well-being ahead of his duty to the crew. The same way Garibaldi's problem with drinking put his own wants ahead of his crew. That's how I hoped the story was going when but instead they wrapped it up quickly.

TheIrishGrover · 28-06-2022 07:39PM

Holy cr*p. Yet ANOTHER fantastic episode. Each series has one of these mad God/mad world/Mas situation episode but they all seem to be very poor. (Usually they are very cheap "Bottle" episodes where they just re-dress the existing set). This was hilarious.

Especially Hemmer "Behold the power of me powerful magic's.... uh.... power!!!!" The enthusiasm of the cast in the episode.

The dialogue between Pike and Ortegas.

Pike/Mount in general (I hope nobody takes it as an old-fashioned gay portrayal. He was just a comedy coward).

Ortegas and Number One (Actually, Ortegas in general).

Noonian Singh and her song.

I liked how immediately M'Benga assumed he was hallucinating "Compared to Crusher's episode (If there is nothing wrong with me, then there must be something wrong with the universe"... Uh. OK).

True, the ending was a bit rushed. We should have seen more of the daughter before now to add a bit more weight to the scenes. But the girl was sweet and portrayed well.

As for the crew members being injured, well if "Deborah" can can warm reality that easily and cure the daughter while in the warped reality then I assume they could just say "What happens in this reality STAYS in this reality"

Just another stellar (No pun intended) episode of a stellar series. A hard two thumbs WAY up for me

CastorTroy · 28-06-2022 09:26PM

So with 2 episodes to go, will it be a 2 parter?

breezy1985 · 28-06-2022 09:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119264055#Comment_119264055

They don't have an I & II name anyway but that's all I know.

corkie · 28-06-2022 10:07PM

Different directors and writers for last two episodes.

Last two parter ending would be discovery season 2 (but not an episodic show).

Prodigy had a 2 parter for it's mid season ending.

pixelburp · 29-06-2022 08:19PM

Oh my god that episode was so silly, so stupid - I loved it. And just when I thought it was totally frivolous, the story pulled the heartstrings and gave a pretty bittersweet finale. Bravo. Surprised the Docs daughter was wrapped up so soon as a plot, but then fair play; it can't be accused of being drawn out either. Just the right amount.

Thought Spock Amok would be the main comedy episode but this was a deeply humourous dip into that staple of Trek, The One Where We Raid the Costume Department. You could tell the cast were having a blast with their various roles and switch-ups too - Anson Mount in particular looked positively giddy playing the snivelling Chamberlain.

Could you imagine Discovery doing an episode like this? Haha, god it doesn't bare thinking of.

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