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Mod Note Post #1 - The 2022 All Ireland Senior Football Championship.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,805 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    I agree, penalties aren't perfect but there's no real credible alternative.

    Replays make a balls of the scheduling and add too much uncertainty to the calendar

    Point shootouts are essentially the same deal, no idea why they are supposed to be a better alternative

    Pat Spillane talked about a golden score or having to win by 2. Having to win by 2 - you cant expect players to play indefinitely after almost 100 mins of play, they were all gassed after ET as it was.

    Golden score might have some merit, it would definitely lead to a few dramatic minutes but again, could lead to an indefinite amount of playing time

    Penalties are probably the least bad option



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Fattybojangles


    Same with some of the windbags on here calling for the guards to be involved and lifetime bans etc twas one step away from oh won't someone think of the children from the simpsons stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭_NAGDEFY


    Exactly.

    Though I find the argument that 45s wouldn't be entertaining really funny. Considering the majority of today's inter county games have little entertainment anyway it's very ironic.



  • Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Exactly at the end of the day somebody has to be the hero or the villain.

    Maybe for the final there's merit in a replay certainly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    If a game came to a shoot out then it must at least have been entertaining by being close, like yesterday's game.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,694 ✭✭✭elefant


    Whatever about free kicks being a bad suggestion, 45s is even worse. You'd be getting scores like 2/5 each, then the next 10 missing and starting again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,471 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    From playing to coaching the clubs under 12's the 'man' involved in the eye-gouging should be kicked out of the GAA for ten years.

    Scumbag behaviour. If you did that on the street, you would be in front of a judge facing prison time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Cliffyy


    Mod Edit

    Warning issued.

    Post edited by ShamoBuc on


  • Administrators Posts: 55,176 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Armagh's first penalty was terrible, and they failed to hit the target with a second one. Galway keeper didn't make a save.

    That's not bad luck or a bad way to lose, it's a skill / technique problem, and a legitimate and fair way to lose. IMO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭_NAGDEFY


    Derry and Donegal was close etc. Lots of games like that. And they're not entertaining.

    Yesterday was mostly entertaining for the excellent football, not the closeness. For 20 minutes of the second half Galway were 3 or more points ahead, not particularly close. Bar the injury time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭_NAGDEFY


    The wisdom of Soupy Campbell taking a penalty has to be questioned. He was cramping very badly. The worst on the field.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,521 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Penalties are not great but neither is spending a load of money and the match having no resolution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    It'd be a bit strange if the Sunday Game dedicated a slot to discussing the cost of petrol.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Swaine


    The Gardai announce they will not be getting involved in yesterday's melee. That will dissappoint a few on here who were looking for jail terms. Eye gouging aside there was nothing to that row. Deal with the eye gouger, make an example of him, job done. Oh and rescind those two stupid reds given out. Look at Sean Kelly through the whole video and all he's doing is trying to break it up and he gets a red. Such fcuking nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 Roy Ferguson


    'Scratching someone's face'.

    Just total inability to condemn. It has to be said that this type of inability to admit to fault, this beligerent victimhood is a mirror of extreme unionism. You are all so alike, it's no wonder you can't get along. Stubborn, narky, always right. Willing to take offence at the slightest criticism.

    As other posters pointed out you couldn't see the nuance that it was just Armagh criticised. Not Antrim, Down, Fermanagh who behave properly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    I don't get the "as a man" stuff. What has someone's personality got to do with anything?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,340 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I really enjoyed it atmosphere was great. Happened to be sitting beside Tierney's parents and supporters from Oughterard. They won't forget it for rest of their lives. The mother had said he had a goal in him before the game! :D

    Was the second penalty shootout I saw live in GAA. Other one was Dublin v Meath O'Byrne cup. Even that was tense.

    Bit annoys me about the whinging about penalties it was as if some only realised it! Same for both teams. Was 20 ET etc. It was great. I will never forget it. My auld fella from Galway was loving every minute of it.

    Post edited by gormdubhgorm on

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Swaine


    Maybe if the lads below were dealt with properly eye gouging would be a thing of the past.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,579 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Yeah, and if I recall Philly McMahon only got a one-match ban (opening game of the following year's league).

    It's a good point, it could have been dealt with better before now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,045 ✭✭✭threeball


    Golden score wouldn't worth in GAA as the wind could decide the winner of a game. Lose the coin toss and it could be good as over for one team.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,045 ✭✭✭threeball


    Mod Edit

    Warning issued.

    Post edited by ShamoBuc on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    As I said during the game, every team trains these players to act like thugs right throughout the entire match. They are literally coached to barge into other players after scores or just when running past somebody, and thats without touching on the verbals or the other scummy tricks.

    Every single game is literally 70 mins of lads "letting them know you are there" and nothing is done about it. Crying about Armagh and MMA is very much missing the woods for the trees.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,340 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    It comes down to the whole disciplinary system of the GAA. It is farcical, the appeal system etc. Which means if fellas act the 'macho man' they know they are not likely to be punished much. Plus have a good chance of getting away with it. Even if they are picked out.

    And in the GAA culture there are always some who love the GAA 'hard man'. It is a cultural thing for some counties more than others, to be honest. GAA people all know certain counties known for playing on the edge at club or county level.

    That could easily be changed, but the truth is many in the GAA get a kick out of good row shows 'passion' etc. A 'manly game' etc. If half the stuff happened in the likes of soccer fellas would be getting big fines and hefty suspensions. With no fluting about with dodgy appeals.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,397 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Yeah the penalty shoot-out finish is such a rarity that it's a wonderful spectacle.

    I don't get people saying it's unfair pressure on amateurs either. It's nothing compared to a major soccer tournament finishing the same way. At least there isn't millions on stake or the likelihood of getting dogs (and quite often racist) abuse from some neanderthals on twitter if your the unfortunate player that misses the decisive kick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,340 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I think it just comes down to the fact many are not used to it in the GAA. They are traditionalists at heart. Slow to change. Plus I think there would be a cohort who would resent the use of penalties as a decider because it is like what 'that Soccer crowd' do. I think there is a bit of that underlying it as well. Armagh will have to practise penalties in training in future as will the rest of the counties now.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,734 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Kelly had absolutely nothing to do with it. He was beside Donaghy on the way into the tunnel. Watch the other angles of it. Nugent did nothing either

    There should be a long suspension for the eye gouge. The rest of it was just handbags stuff. A lot worse went on out on the field that both the Ref and Linesman turned a blind eye to. Hard to dish out suspensions for the rolling around & pushing abd shoving at the final whistle when they didnt book Walsh & Morgan for it during the game. Ref was afraid to send off a second Armagh player



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Cliffyy


    My sincerest apologies for the last 3 posts. Meant for threeM.

    I am indeed a clown. I'm heading for the circus!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,045 ✭✭✭threeball


    Apology accepted. Fair play for holding your hands up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭dunnerc


    No way Dublin will hold that Kerry attack , easily the weakest Dublin dsfense in over a decade .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,683 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    My main issue is that taking penalties isn't something many footballers do on a regular basis whereas free-taking would be something a lot of IC forwards would do at club level at least



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