Galway GAA Discussion Thread #2

Happyilylost · 25-06-2022 12:11PM

Rough weather for this minor game. Let's somehow hope its a Galway vs Kerry final!

25-06-2022 01:34PM

I'm sorry but it makes zero sense to concede kickouts.

It takes around 3 seconds for the ball to reach midfield and it's very easy to regain and maintain a shape after.

I don't recall Dublin conceding kickouts and for good reason, they wouldn't have won 6 in a row had they.

Its going to be very hard to build momentum against a team if after every point/wide you're letting them have a possession.

I remember reading a stat that Dublin were averaging 0.5 points per possession, so if you're going to let a team win 25:25 kickouts that's roughly 10-12 points. And if you kick yours long and win 10:25 that's another possible 5-7 points for them.

Pressing kickouts has no negative consequences, the ball is predominantly recycled back after its won in midfield anyway and very rarely leads to someone bombing in at goal directly from it breaking(again even if it's won and on the turn the player would unlikely have support to get into the opposition 45 quickly).

Conversely there's no advantage kicking it into a packed midfield, no team will win more than 60% of those and you could just as easily lose 60%.

Press kickouts and win yours short and you have a chance.

I've seen us in enough games losing most of ours and not competing and losing to heavyweights like Roscommon and Tipperary to know it's foolish.

Happyilylost · 25-06-2022 01:35PM

That black looked very harsh? Hard to tell from the stand as we're side on but he seemed to try shoulder him just miss timed it..... goal conceded and black card made it a very bad last few minutes.

Happyilylost · 25-06-2022 02:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119248001#Comment_119248001

Not my plan. Just the way I see it going.

No negative consequences from a press? None at all? Might want to watch the 58 minute of last year's All Ireland Final to see consequences. Press will force them long. When it's kicked long Galway will have 6 to 7 players behind the ball. Armagh have it short Galway have all 15 in front of the ball

I would much prefer to see the press. Thought Galway did it very well in the league but seems to have become less and less prevalent since championship started.

Will have to see with our kickouts. Not Gleesons strong point imo.

threeball · 25-06-2022 02:22PM

What is wrong with Galway teams that they can't close out a game. Cruising at 50mins and end up shutting the bed from there on in. It's endemic across both codes at all grades.

Happyilylost · 25-06-2022 02:27PM

Woooooooo All Ireland Final!!!!!!!!!

Avon8 · 25-06-2022 06:22PM

95% of pundits are going for Armagh. "It's gonna be so close and I can't pick between them but ik pick Armagh to edge it" yada yada rinse and repeat.

A customary look at underage results in the last few years, or the all Ireland roll of honour might change yer tunes lads. I'd say even senior results in the last year. Nice to be going in largely written off

ClanofLams · 25-06-2022 06:37PM

Kickouts are a weakness for both teams I think, Donegal got plenty of joy pushing up on Ethan Rafferty’s kickouts until they got black card, he has a smaller range than most goalies so he’s unlikely to punish a press by launching one beyond midfield. Would expect Galway will push up a lot of the time having seen that.

Hopefully see some improvement in Galway’s

mjp · 26-06-2022 10:16AM

Will be madness if Galway don't go after Rafferty's kickout early with a press considering the size of players we have in hf/midfield options. Rafferty is not a natural goalie and hasn't been able to kick across his body in the two Donegal and Tyrone game without altering his run and giving it away to opposition where he's going. Obvious danger with a press that teams will try and kick over the press but Rafferty hasn't done that so far this year and he doesn't have distance that cluxton or other natural keepers would have. Be interesting what Armagh will do to counter the expected Galway press.

The biggest worry I would have for us today would be that Armagh will know Sean Kelly will follow o Neill everywhere he goes but that it may leave us susceptible to be targeted with long high ball into FF line where murnin would have size over Glynn and Silke. So many intruiging match ups to be had with this game. Galway need a big game from Tierney today as he was largely anonymous in last few games. He's going under the radar slightly so today might be his chance to shine and show what he's capable of.

26-06-2022 02:29PM

Well the restarts are exactly as expected.

Armagh put one into midfield and we won it and they've been able to get the rest off way too easily.

We've bombed most into midfield and lost most.

After Armagh scored a free, we had Glynn in acres of space free, ball is launched into midfield, lost and 30seconds later another free and score.

Gleeson takes about 20 seconds to get and place a ball.... It's just so needlessly poor. Speed is the most crucial aspect.

threeball · 26-06-2022 02:29PM

Awful tripe. Not pressing the kickout properly so caught between two stools of having pressed up but leaving an easy out ball.

And treacle would run faster than our transition from back to front. Big change needed or this is done.

Leaving Comer on the square hitting hopeful ball is a joke too. Waste of talent unless he's injured and can't run.

Supposed match of the weekend has been septic so far.

Brendan Bendar · 26-06-2022 02:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119252224#Comment_119252224

Wouldn’t agree there, tactical, yes, but yes they do need to up the tempo.

threeball · 26-06-2022 03:29PM

Coasting and two fcuk ups by Gleeson and its all undone

26-06-2022 03:30PM

Gleeson is absolutely useless. Cost us both goals.

Every single game we throw away leads and hanging on at the end.

Them down a man as well.

I knew full well we hadn't it won going into injury time.

That aside they need to take the time keeping off the ref. 8mins was laughable. You'd rarely see that unless someone had to be stretchered off with a bad injury.

homewardbound11 · 26-06-2022 03:30PM

Come on Galway . From a mayo fan .

after that **** on Shane Walsh and the gouging of comer at the end . Was totally disgraceful .

make it a mayo Galway final .

rodge123 · 26-06-2022 03:32PM

Nasty looking eye gouging/scraping attempt by one of Armagh backroom team on Galway 3 there at end. If replays show it as bad as initially looked then a life ban should be imposed

ben.schlomo · 26-06-2022 03:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119252518#Comment_119252518

Gleeson has been a woeful keeper for years. There's a reason he couldn't make it with either GUFC or Athlone Town. The lad isn't the brightest.

threeball · 26-06-2022 03:40PM

Mod Edit

Warning issued.

rodge123 · 26-06-2022 03:41PM

Mod Edit

Warning issued.

obi604 · 26-06-2022 03:47PM

A lad get his eyes gouged……and gets sent off 🙄

Whoever did the gouging got a nice right hook from a Galway lad.

CruelSummer · 26-06-2022 03:49PM

Come on Galway - how could they not have this seen out!!

26-06-2022 03:52PM

Galway free surely? Let go and Armagh point. Ref needs to get a grip

John Doe1 · 26-06-2022 04:00PM

As a Donegal fan, Armagh are a disgrace (as per usual) and I really want you guys to win this.

threeball · 26-06-2022 04:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119252695#Comment_119252695

Hes the cause of all the hassle because he hasn't dealt with all the Armagh scumbaggery through the 2nd half. Another clothesline tackle and not even a free