Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

So people on here declaring they just miss out on grants for college places for their children are tax leeches, or people who qualify for grants? Or is society and taxation a little more nuanced? Can you get your head on costs yes, but also value yes? Societal investment, etc, etc, etc. Ones labour results not in just their personal tax liability but is used to make profits and further taxation ensues. That sort of thing?

But anyway the claim I was responded to was most Polish people working here have bought land and built houses back in Poland and that bizarrely makes them leeches.

Now obviously that is figment of that posters imagination.

So lets stick to that, do you agree with that?

Why would you then add already to that situation and add even more “entitled” mouths to the pyre? It defies all logic and common sense.

Again, you are looking at costs not value. You have quite crassly equated ones worth with their personal tax liability. It's beyond snobbish, but if you like throw up your P60 and a brief outline of your situation and I'll have a go at calculating your worth and will score you on the leechometer.

I jest, that would be a cúntish thing to do.

I agree that using the video was distasteful given that there seems to be a mix of nationalities staying in the hotel. That said, a quick internet search and you can read dozens of media articles about Ukrainians staying at the hotel including individual pieces about families and their experiences. I can bore you with links if you want, or just go a look for yourself.

Just that article alone showing people sleeping on floors and makeshift beds with pushed together chairs shows there is no room for these poor people.

So why isn't there even any consideration on caps?

We take them in and then we say it's a disgrace the way we are treating them.

It's mind boggling.

Crass or not that’s what it comes down to. Money doesn’t actually come from fresh air despite what the left would fill you with.

No need to personalise but seen as you did I know myself how much I pay in and what (virtually nothing) I get back. I’m not in receipt of any welfare payments (zero), I have private medical if I need it (paid for). Only thing I “get back” is a miserable dental examination and scale/polish once per year.

Excellent point and whilst NOT Ukranians, there's no excuse for this and its probably the tip of the iceberg, there's no excusing either what occurred, disgraceful scenes but boxing in different nationalities, ethic groups into a cramped ballroom is literally waiting for a powder keg to explode. These folks as explained earlier were part of an agreement government entered into long before this crisis happened, to accommodate 500 refugees from other war torn regions, they knew they were arriving, knew the chronic accomodation was at breaking point and yet again had absolutely no plan or strategy in place .

Even the most Ardent supporters of governments approach, surely must beginning to think that at the very least the Pause button needs to be pushed, we're now entering the territory of absolute madness and chaos.

We can’t take anymore.

Its a free for all.

700% increase in immigrants outside of Ukraine since the offer to come at the beginning of the war.

Irish people are suffering and are pushed further down the list.

FF lad thinks they will all be consultants and engineers.

Poweful stuff.

We don't have left governance, and the reality of the situation explained to you has nothing to do with politics.

You get lots back, you just don't realise it.

You are categorically all over the place, your well known obsession with all things SW is well known , you stray into area's you know absolutely nothing about, do you seriously think anyone could make up what I posted .

I probably have Jocks older than you and despite your narrow minded views, roundly called out here and elsewhere, Ireland in 2000 to 2005 was a very different place when it came to SW or indeed all supports available to Eastern Europeans coming here to better their lives.

I'm also an expert on Work permits , whilst entirely separate, those also arriving here on same had no access to state supports and if they ended up with Rouge employers and thousands did they were completely at the mercy of Rouge employers.

Bring your nonsense elsewhere or set up a thread were you can attract like minded ill-informed folks to throw a few thanks your way.

You are insufferable.

Maybe they got them here !