Mod Note Post #1 - The 2022 All Ireland Senior Football Championship.

threeball · 21-06-2022 04:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119227036#Comment_119227036

Either way they won't exactly be hopping off the ground, primed and ready for the challenge a Kerry or Mayo game will bring. I agree, a lot of hype around Dublin based on the drubbing of a few minnows and a Kildare implosion. I'd give Cork a shot to stay within 5 or 6. They'd really need to shít the bed to lose by 11.

rogerywalters · 21-06-2022 04:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119231603#Comment_119231603

I think the hype is also based off players they have that have won multiple All irelands, mayo have zero and kerry havent to many. Dublin were always gonna be 2nd favourites, and rightly so. They are getting short in the odds though thats all.

CornerForward10286 · 21-06-2022 05:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119231421#Comment_119231421

Limerick treated the league v seriously for a time also, things changed. So far the championship is panning out like it always does for Dublin!. Wouldn’t surprise me one but 2 see kerry come a cropper.

breezy1985 · 21-06-2022 05:14PM

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I agree I don't think the sideline team are up to it either.

The Dubs wouldn't be the first team to have a dud after such a successful manager. The next man in always has it tough and you often find it takes a failure before the right man can come in after the expectations have dropped

Whatdoesitmatter · 21-06-2022 05:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119231421#Comment_119231421

Dublin don't do yerra. But if they did it would probably.......

gormdubhgorm · 21-06-2022 06:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119231688#Comment_119231688

Dublin wanted to win everything. Good sides win leagues and get to finals consistently. Plus div1 Dublins only form of competitive football each year. Until SF AI stages. Will really put Dublin back next year.

In most three year periods there is definite correlation between League success (or lack there of) and Championship success in football. Happens too often to be a coincidence.

But another factor this year is Dublin had no Con O’Callaghan in league. Dublin now heavily dependent on him. If I was Cork management would Double mark Con - Leave Rock free not much threat from play.

And use the same counter attack tactics Cork were successful with for 60 minutes in the 2019 Super 8’s . These Days an opposing team playing Dublin only has to stay with them for 50 mins not 70 mins. Why? Because the Dublin bench weakens the first 15. Rock becomes a passenger quickly.

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 21-06-2022 06:43PM

Strong rumours that Clifford out of Mayo game, time will tell if any substance to them

Coillte_Bhoy · 21-06-2022 08:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119231242#Comment_119231242

Ara ya, let's just ignore the last 15 mins and all of extra time but just focus on one particular incident. What a bizarre take

CornerForward10286 · 21-06-2022 09:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119231920#Comment_119231920

I’d be amazed if Dublin don’t beat cork by 7/8 points handy on what I have seen this championship. Time will tell but it’s all about championship. League matters jack **** now. Another serious player for Dublin played little league is C Kilkenny. Dublin I reckon will have a big say in Championship

dobman88 · 22-06-2022 12:25AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119232032#Comment_119232032

Lol. You're a couple of weeks late for it. He was literally confirmed fit and available by O Connor at the media day yesterday. Look at the Radio Kerry sports journalist, Tim Moynihan, Twitter account. He has shed light on answers given by O Connor to print media after his own interview with him.

He has been training.

He is fit.

He starts.

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 22-06-2022 12:40AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119233174#Comment_119233174

https://twitter.com/moynihan_tim/status/1538944473299836931?t=uE0FA9n3e-ldZjdF0hcmYQ&s=19

dobman88 · 22-06-2022 12:49AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119233196#Comment_119233196

Yep. Confirms what I said. Read the subsequent replies to his own tweet too. Clifford is fit and training. He definitely starts.

Don't join gormdubhgorm on the Yerra train.

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 22-06-2022 12:54AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119233213#Comment_119233213

You obviously can't read.

Nowhere does it say he's starting.

Night night

dobman88 · 22-06-2022 01:03AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119233221#Comment_119233221

Nope. It doesn't. That's just my opinion when he is confirmed fit and training. He definitely starts.

G'night.

blowitupref · 22-06-2022 01:19AM

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Lost by 12 to Kerry even though that match was 0-10 to 0-11 after 50 mins. Cork fitness, conditioning and lack of like for like replacements on bench is what will likely go against them them this weekend as it did v Kerry.

Fattybojangles · 22-06-2022 09:55AM

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Mayo were the better team in extra time no doubt but without the retaken free Dublin win by a point and there is no extra time I thought that would be self explanatory.

My point was more to counter act some of the yerraing by Dubs and talking down of them by others they were a kick of the ball away from another AI final last year they lead that game for the guts of 70 minutes. People are actually talking like they are going to struggle against Cork they'll annihilate Cork.

22-06-2022 10:13AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119233680#Comment_119233680

But their form since the loss to Mayo in August has not been good.

Their poor performance in extra time v Mayo carried on for at least four and arguably seven league games.

That's where the yerraing is coming from.

Fattybojangles · 22-06-2022 10:23AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119233756#Comment_119233756

The league is an irrelevance now it doesn't matter Dublin have annihilated the 3 teams they've played in championship 3 poor teams yes but they are no worse than the rubbish Kerry have beaten yet nobody is questioning their credentials for an All Ireland? They've beaten no one of any substance in championship football the first good team they played last year beat them the year before they lost to Cork!! I wouldn't be surprised at all if Mayo beat them this weekend.

keeponhurling · 22-06-2022 10:24AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119232032#Comment_119232032

Seems he's fit and will start.

However he won't have played since the Cork match, 7 weeks previous. I wonder can he maintain his form during the league. Mayo do have good defenders.

After the league, we were all thinking this could be Clifford's best year yet.

littlevillage · 22-06-2022 10:35AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119227818#Comment_119227818

Fair play for coming straight out and making predictions (even if I personally wouldn't aggree entirely ) ... makes a change from the "yerra I wouldn't be surprised if..." Whataboutery balls scratcher brigade

MacDanger · 22-06-2022 10:36AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119233680#Comment_119233680

I agree that Dublin will hammer Cork, can't see it being even remotely close tbh. That said, I think Farrell is a big weakness for Dublin and maybe the reason they won't beat Kerry rather than a lack of talent

Hammer Archer · 22-06-2022 11:01AM

I'm really not seeing where the view that Cork will somehow put it up to Dublin is coming from. Perhaps apart from Wicklow, Cork were the worst team we've faced this season. They've beaten Down, Offaly, Louth and Limerick so far. A lot is being put on the fact that it was a 1 point game against Kerry at one point in the second half, completely ignoring that they were promptly annihilated by 12 points in the end.

Dublin's league was awful but they have undeniably upped it a few gears since then with all three games so far being over by half time. Their winning margins in Leinster this year were 23, 13 and 14 points respectively. Last year, against the same opposition in Leinster it was 8, 6 & 8 points respectively. The return of O'Callaghan seems to have given them a massive boost.

I'd expect Dublin to blitz Cork early on like they've done in their 3 previous games and just run out the second half. If Cork do somehow stay in touch, then Dublin will then blitz them in the last 15-20 minutes and probably win by 10-15 points. Would love it if I was wrong but nothing Cork has done this year would give me any confidence in them springing a surprise.

FullBack Jam · 22-06-2022 11:22AM

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I agree with you Hammer. I'd say there will be at least 13 in it at the end. People are getting delusional and trying to convince themselves that Dublin have gone away - all in the hope that we can have a change for a couple of years at least, instead of Dublin dominance.

But Dublin still have a very good team. I don't think there was a big Kildare implosion. There was excuses being made that Kildare were overconfident against Dublin. How could that be the case. In the past decade or so, the Dubs have won around 8 All-Irelands. It wasn't a case that Kildare played badly. I'm not saying they played well. Just that they were not let play. I think we'll see the usual - Dublin will bang in a few goals in the first half, panic will seep through the Cork team. Dublin will go 7 or 8 ahead, and the game will be a borefest. Dublin will take the foot of the gas, with an eye on the Kerry (or Mayo) match, and will tack on the odd point afterwards - and finish with a 13 point margin.

God, I hope I'm wrong!!!!!!

HBC08 · 22-06-2022 11:35AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119233221#Comment_119233221

Most people can deduce if Clifford is fit he starts for Kerry.

Hulk Hands · 22-06-2022 12:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119234146#Comment_119234146

I too also believe that if Clifford is fit to play, he's good enough to get a starting spot for Kerry

dobman88 · 22-06-2022 01:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119233855#Comment_119233855

Haha. Any prediction I've made so far this year has been absolutely miles off but it's always fun to look back on posts at the end of the year.

Prime example of me saying the Sunday quater finals would get about 45k. And it looks like being about 75k as another poster predicted.

gormdubhgorm · 22-06-2022 04:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119232607#Comment_119232607

League definitely matters especially for a team like Dublin in a province now without a div1 side. I would agree with you on the 7\8 points though. But Cork are an odd team have loads of good players most counties would love to have some of their players. But for some reason few in Cork take football seriously. Except for certain football hot spots.

gormdubhgorm · 22-06-2022 05:01PM

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Yeah, I laughed when I saw that. I was assuming 50k max for Sunday, 30k for Saturday. But i did not take into account how Armagh get behind a side with momentum, and how the Mayo fans come out in massive numbers. It will be interesting to see how many Galway fans show up, considering many support the hurlers. But again Armagh v Galway is a novelty.

The Kerry fans? I don't know. I would have thought youse would have been waiting for the final? 😉

In all seriousness though delighted I am going on Sunday should be two great games. Saturday will be almost a starter. Would assume Derry will have too much for Clare. But against Meath I remember Clare looking powerful. Just realised as well I don't think I ever saw the Clare footballers live. Will be a bit of a novelty.

The Cork v Dublin game? It is more curiosity as to how Cork approach it. I still think the rebels are capable of giving the Dubs a scare. The funny thing is I think Cork have a fear factor playing Dublin, that they wouldn't have if they were playing Kerry.

threeball · 22-06-2022 05:22PM

Prediction wise I'm going with

Derry by 5 over Clare

Dublin by 8 over Cork

Galway by 4 over Armagh

Kerry by 7 over Mayo

dobman88 · 22-06-2022 05:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119235759#Comment_119235759

Honestly, and it pains me to say it but I genuinely did not think many Kerry fans would travel. Or Galway fans. I had accounted for the usual Mayo support and a big Armagh support so there must be a big crowd coming from Kerry and Galway for it to be close to a sell out.

Given the cost of everything sky rocketing recently, I didn't see this crowd coming at all but it will make for a great atmosphere. Anyone I know travelling is going to both games and you'd imagine most of Armagh and Galway fans would stay on for the 1st half of the second game at least so should be a great day.

Mod Note Post #1 - The 2022 All Ireland Senior Football Championship.

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