Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

I'm sorry Blanch but that's an incredible statement, whilst the Directive is extraordinarily badly constructed and exposes the abject stupidity of EU leadership are you seriously suggesting its appropriate or even necessary, given this was supposed to be a temporary measure (joke on us) that on top of a Gaurentee of Accommodation, State SW supports, Access to medical attention, Continuation of education, the Directive was intended to include substantial financial aid towards university fees, Seriously 😳

They can open bank accounts with essentially a wink and a Nod, Get Car insurance with no need to prove or verify any driving history and to be blunt, use Driving licences that no one can possibly verify are valid.

Christ on Bike, what next, Automatic citizenship.

There was absolutely no need to offer Susi or any other other grants, the Pius universities could just offer a free placement as long as it didn't mean someone else lost a place. Why ths need for any grant, its ludicrous and apart from anything, who's actually verifying any of these students were even enrolled in a Ukranian university in the first place 🙄 What essentially government are doing, is further opening the gates attracting Students that may not even be in Ireland to pack their bags and join the free for all.

Saw that vomit enducing nonsense, one comedian fawning over another former comedian 🤢

I absolutely agree and whilst some questionable things happening beyond government decisions, I firmly lay blame at Government, Politicians Various agencies, Not Ukrainian refugees.

They can open bank accounts with essentially a wink and a Nod, Get Car insurance with no need to prove or verify any driving history and to be blunt, use Driving licences that no one can possibly verify are valid

And again no Ukrainian Refugees are opening bank accounts fraudulently, they have to prove their identity and place of residence like everyone else.

You have made the same sinister claims repeatedly.

They have to prove their identity and place of residence like everyone else, on top of that if they don't speak English they need to provide an interrupter.

If you have actual evidence for your claims by all means link it up, in you own good time.

The Irish moochers are our problem. Other countries moochers are not. But we seem desperate to make the post offices and Intreo centres of Ireland as multicultural and diverse as possible.

This has to stop. The 20 percent that are working can stay. The rest need to go back ASAP.

Sometimes it feels like the government want to drive division in society with these decisions.

Alot of immigrants on visas very pissed off with how this has been handled

So you have absolutely no evidence for your claims?

Why are you making up sinister falsities so?

Yep , you continue to make all sorts of assumptions based on your own single minded interpretation of what is going on, you accuse me of making a claim I said Ukrainians opening accounts fraudulently, then typically back track , you'd honestly, I believe, swear black is white 🙄

Doubt they'll be paying for supporting anyone really. It'll still be us so called "middle" group just paying for more people on top of our own.

Everything out there online and in the media suggest this is great for Ireland because they will fill all the low skilled jobs the Irish won't supposedly do. (never understand this argument, anywhere I go, hotels, bars, supermarkets, shops, any retail, restaurants etc.. is mostly Irish employed from what I see, well in my area)

On min wage they pay small amounts of tax and on that wage won't be able to buy houses or rent anywhere because they won't be able to afford it.

Therefore we'll most likely be handing out rent supplements and HAP and council houses to these people for years to come. Add on all the other benefits, medical, social welfare, grants, child allowance etc...

I'd say what they will get will be far more than we get back in taxes.

Doubt they'll be paying for supporting anyone really

There is no doubt about it, 1000s are already registered with revenue and paying into the tax pot.

Not all Ukrainian refugees are holed up in hotels or disused sports halls or depending on the state for handouts.

Beyond admirable really, I can see how some of our own very vocal minority are feeling quite threatened.

Ukraine is a huge country, bigger than France. The war is in the far east of the country is fairly localised even there and in certain towns up the half the residents are on the side of Putin's army, who regard them as liberators. These people suffered greatly since 2014 at the hands of the genocidal tactics of the self styled terror group called Azov who were secretly armed and financed by Zelenskeyy, when the war started the Ukranian army took them under their wing. The Russians wiped out most of Azov in the steel plant in Marioupol an so the war goes on and will do at a low level for at least anothe 2 years. Chances are the eastern borders will be redrawn after armistice / peace talks.

I suggest that an independent group (not politicians) should travel from Ireland to Ukraine on a fact finding mission with a view to finding out the feasability of repatriating the Ukrainins. From my limited research I understand that there are 1,000's of empty apartments in the west of the country that were never touched by bomb or bullet ready to be reoccupied by those who fled. They should be encouraged to return home ASAP - perhaps with a promise of two weeks social welfare payment which equates to over a months salary in Ukraine.

Only 20 percent of them work! The government are boxing off another three billion euro to pay for the need of these VIP refugees.

Id be shocked if half entered the labour market. These people “fled” over two thousand miles to a tiny rock off of the Atlantic as the states on their doorstep are cutting off the handouts. They’ve done their homework. Judging by the Ukrainian Facebook groups, many more are brushing up on the Free States Prizes.

Theyll never break even, never mind pay for anything!