Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Lads all I’m trying to figure out is this.

Why are you so annoyed at Ukrainians receiving help from fleeing a war at the moment when you don’t have the balls to do the same when Nigerians are receiving the same benefits and help for 20 years and they don’t have war going on????

Sure, open the thread yourself and start the discussion....... I'm sure you will have plenty of contributions...... Or do you think that someone will label you a racist?

Why would I? If they are here, they are here? If someone sets up a thread and says that Nigerian welfare seekers should be sent back home, I'd agree with it. That's not racist, that's an Irish person not wanting a leech on the systems that are currently in place and are contributed to by my taxes.

I missed last evenings rather appalling attempts to turn this thread upside down bringing accusations of racism into the discussion and one poster who's obsession with all things Social welfare is well known across the site trying to inject their Bile into this Thread , thankfully both were called out.

There's been many heated discussions, Debate, arguments, admittedly some wild assertions and yes Anger but I believe in the Main not directed at Refugees but the entire approach to this crisis and to be honest what people genuinely believe is blatant Double standards.

As I said previously even the most Ardent opponents showed understanding and patience at the start but gradually cracks began to surface, lack of infrastructure, Housing, Pledges not being acted upon ,chronic shortages of accomodation and the obvious lack of controls and verifications in place.

I'm not a proponent of whataboutry but my god at a basic level and looking at what people have to go through in normal times to get access to supports, housing, Education, Health, even switching bank accounts and looking on at supports and rule bending going on to suit one cohort, is it not any wonder why Social cohesion is breaking down. I know people are angry and it's damn well nothing to do with racism and to suggest otherwise is despicable, it's actually the total opposite, its about fairness, equality and dare I say , common sense. It's also about practicalities and realism. Government had option's, could have offered practical and financial supports but instead went head first into virtue signalling mode, opened the borders had absolutely no plan in place, relied on the generosity of the Irish people and an NGO clearly out of its depth and made an already intolerable situation at home even worse , needlessly and still, 5 months in , not a clue, all the while and seemingly oblivious, overseeing a breakdown in Social cohesion, I'm not even sure it's possible to make this up.

There's been extraordinary gestures of Generosity shown, even more extraordinary patience shown but like it or not we're now in an even bigger crisis than we were last March and the sad Irony, its actually Refugees that will always be the first to suffer and already we can see Government scrambling to catch up, it sadly may be too late. I don't pretend not to be Angry, it's evident on both sides of the debate, I don't pretend to have the answers or solutions, I've been wrong, I've apologised , I've be correct and been chastised , yes I've gone to far, been reigned in but like many who've contributed, I've tried to be objective and have commended many who's generosity has been extraordinary, I may not agree with them when they criticise others opinions but I do respect their points of view. Boards is in the main a fantastic platform for discussion, I think most of us guilty of silliness at times.

The debate will continue thankfully

That's my morning rant over have a great day all 😏

I mentioned it because I have seen a group of Ukrainians drink their way through a bag of cans on an Irish train before lunch hour recently. They had to be asked to put out their cigarettes too

Did they store their cans in a brand new pram full of ice?

A yes and they he/she is , without even mentioning names the illustrious anti everything knew who I was referring too , even on Sunday having to be called out for trying to stir things elsewhere. What's actually extraordinary is you keep coming back for more, nothing positive to say, actually nothing to say at all apart from one line Jibes across the site, of course that's your entitlement but of course I and many others will continue to call you out .

Anything to say about the actual Topic 🤔

But of course not ......

Honestly Boogles, it's a beautiful morning, Get out, go for a walk tend to your garden, its amazing the positivity you can find outside, what was it those discriptions of me you said previously, Creepy, curtain Twitcher, Village odd ball so to speak 🤔

Actually I'm perfectly Normal, out doing a spot of gardening this morning, I'll check back in later to see if your struggling.

Just a little busy at the moment at my Hermit Shed, doing perfectly normal things, hope my Turf doesn't offend anyone, apologies 😉

Unfortunately I semi retired, work from home, shocking isn't it 🙁

Have a great day of productivity...

It is when you refer to "unfortunately I have to work"

Anyway must go, hope you'll be back on topic at some stage, have a great day 😉

Can’t stand not to post. My daughter is working part time and doing her leaving cert this year. She applied for student grant and got letter she has to pay half fees. Thanks god only half. I don’t understand why country is investing 208 per week + 400 who s housing them for refugees. Nothing for perspective students who ll be paying taxes and build the country in the future. But everything was given to persons « in question « ?? Nothing for young people, students, no housing, no medical card. Looking at current events in the country, it’s such a disgusting inequality

Difference being they are taxpayers.

they are not fleeing a war and they will be long term in that accommodation. Their home.

asylum is vastly different from someone on a public housing list. Asylum seekers need be housed as opposed to be accommodated.

the very idea that this needs to be explaining…