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Virtue signalling gobdaw Michael Higgins puts his foot in it again

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    #152
    Luxembourgo
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119211745#Comment_119211745

    Is he the worst ever? Hard to know given presidents do very little.

    I don't really care.

    He may have lost his first term but for a message on a debate. Do we ever not return sitting presidents?



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    #153
    jmcc
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212197#Comment_119212197

    Higgins wouldn't have been elected in 2011 without RTE, its Labour activists and that unverified tweet. Higgins also claimed that he would be a one term president if elected. In 2011, Labour won 37 seats. In 2016, Labour won 7 seats in the GE. Without FF/FG support, Higgins would not have been elected in 2018. Has Higgins overstepped the line into criticsing government policy? Perhaps others could answer that.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



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    #154
    Yurt2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212157#Comment_119212157

    So he owns two houses *and* an ivory tower?

    Some man. President for life.

    Road_high likes his Presidents poor. Ideally with only two changes of clothes and living out of an Opel Corsa. And he needs to be a climate change denier as well. That's important.

    Post edited by Yurt2 on


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    #155
    road_high
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212598#Comment_119212598

    No. As I said already I don’t care- it’s the dishonest hypocrisy that turns my stomach with this utter charlatan. If you can’t see that then there’s very little point in continuing the discussion.



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    #156
    road_high
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212197#Comment_119212197

    Compared to the previous incumbent he’s very very poor yes. He has a very lazy work record (might be his age but after all he put himself before the electorate supposedly to do the job)- we rarely hear from him unless it’s to stir the political pot and point out others perceived failures. He seemed to disappear for about two years during covid which mercifully was a blessing in itself.



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    #157
    jmcc
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212721#Comment_119212721

    Has he built any bridges? The previous incumbent was legendary for that. :)

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



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    #158
    Yurt2
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212707#Comment_119212707

    Owning a house (or heavens, even two!) makes him hypocrite then?

    The guy grew up poor, made something of himself, got educated, was and is regarded as one of the best arts and culture ministers in the state's history (probably the best if we're honest).

    Something to learn there road_high. Life doesn't have to be spent being a flat-eather climate change denialist obsessing over someone who has done well in life and owns, shock horror, not one, but TWO houses.



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    #159
    road_high
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212753#Comment_119212753

    All he has built is his own personal wealth and influence- a professional leech with a penchant or shite poetry.

    Mary mac had a great work record. In total contrast to Higgins.



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    #160
    Yurt2
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212797#Comment_119212797

    Mary McAlesse was a lecturer just as MDH was.

    You have bitterness coming out your eyeballs.

    Life doesn't have to look like this for you road_high.



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    #161
    jmcc
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212797#Comment_119212797

    She was quite a good president unlike the current FF/FG/L one. :) Even Robinson, who fecked off to a job in the UN rather than finish her term as president, was a better president than Higgins.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



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    #162
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,231 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119208185#Comment_119208185

    That’s a good point….he has misled the public before and now he advocates devaluing the wellbeing of Ireland, it’s people and it’s future… our future…unconstitutionally grabbing headlines…and attempting to influence those elected.

    he smoked other candidates as another poster said… yes, he certainly did, he smoked..

    Peter Casey,

    Sean Gallagher

    Joan Freeman

    Gavin Duffy

    Liadh Ni Ridah

    dig up a corpse out of Deansgrane, put a suit and a pair of glasses on them and their name on a ballot paper and the corpse would smoke that lot.

    The previous presidential election he was up against even lesser competitors arguably….



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    #163
    jmcc
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212825#Comment_119212825

    He wouldn't have won the previous election only for the help of RTE and that unverified tweet. RTE had to settle that case rather than go for a full court hearing. Gallagher was well ahead. Gallagher should not have run in 2018.

    By 2018, Labour had become a victim of political climate change and it had gone from 37 seats in 2011 to just 7 in 2016. Without FF/FG's help and with FF and FG running their own candidates, Higgins would not have won in 2018. The Dublin media was promoting Higgins incessantly and talking down the other candidates. Casey got a very hard time, especially from RTE, but the number of votes that he got showed that there was a considerable dissatisfaction with FF/FG/Labour crony candidates like Higgins. Labour did seem to run a major and quite professional Social Media campaign to get him elected.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



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    #164
    road_high
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212825#Comment_119212825

    His track record for lying is almost as long as his love for communist dictators



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    #165
    Strumms
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119209604#Comment_119209604

    Not meant to be a mute, he’s meant to be a president.

    that role does not include butting in or attempting to influence or usurp the democratic processes of the state.



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    #166
    Yurt2
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212876#Comment_119212876

    He did neither.

    He spoke obliquely and without reference to policy on a societal car crash and government parties (privately for now) are throwing their toys out of the pram because they preside over it, have exacerbated it, and most importantly, know it'll be the direct source of their P45s.

    The President was well within the parameters of the constitution to say what he said.

    I said it earlier, some posters here would do well to sit in on a constitutional law class when the topic of the Presidency is covered.

    The days of ministers in cheap suits with a fag hanging out of their mouth bullying any president are gone. The presidency has long since evolved.



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    #167
    Strumms
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212943#Comment_119212943

    A direct source of their p45’s ? The public have that responsibility not Higgins.

    the Presidency evolves when the constitution says it does… that’s not going to happen until the people demand it. They have not.

    the people of this country have not elected Higgins for him to make public proclamations in the manner he is doing.



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    #168
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212760#Comment_119212760

    He deosnt need 2 houses ffs,noone deos,its greed like this is the start point of the mess we are in


    he is quite rightly speaking out againest housing crisis/diaster here,


    But it is ultimtely a hypocrisy,in he put out students to sell a house from under em to take advantage of tax breaks....is this in practice any different from landlords putting people out to sell/refurbish houses to get around rent pressure zone rule??



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    #169
    Yurt2
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212975#Comment_119212975

    Then when does the impeachment process start?

    There will be none because there's no case for one. It would be hilarious to watch the government crumble and the people turn on them if even there was a whisper of it. In fact I'd encourage them to try for entertainment value.

    You're out of your depth here. The President didn't even approach exceeding the constitutional limits of his role.



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    #170
    jmcc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,961 ✭✭✭jmcc


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212943#Comment_119212943

    Have you studied constiutional law or is this only something you've seen on TV while waiting for Love Island to start? The one thing that you fail to understand about politics is that vengance plays a large part and Higgins has pissed off a lot of FFG politicians.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



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    #171
    Yurt2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119213000#Comment_119213000

    I actually have studied law smartarse. Off the back of your contributions I recommend you consider doing a correspondence course or something to bone-up.



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    #172
    jmcc
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212975#Comment_119212975

    75% of the electorate did not vote for Higgins.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



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    #173
    Yurt2
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119213005#Comment_119213005

    Yet there he is, President of Ireland.

    Some people on here appear to have a severe difficulty with our constitutional order.



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    #174
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119211697#Comment_119211697

    Regardless of what his uncritical fan club may claim just because the toxic little turd "won easily" doesn't magically render him immune from criticism.

    For me the poxy little hypocrite's core political message is - and has always been - "sheeple of Ireland judge me by what I say and ignore what I do".



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    #175
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,899 ✭✭✭Allinall


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119213019#Comment_119213019

    Begrudgery is a terrible trait.

    Do you not have a mirror?



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    #176
    Yurt2
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119213019#Comment_119213019

    "Toxic little turd"

    You'll shorten your lifespan with all that anger.



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    #177
    Strumms
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119212999#Comment_119212999

    Out of my depth ? That’s a real superb level of debate.

    i don’t think an impeachment would be happening… not because it wouldn’t or couldn’t occur but simply pretty much everyone in the country has more to worry about and bigger fish to fry then old Michael D. exceeding the legal remit of his job and responsibilities by jawing too much on issues and in a manner he has no business doing.

    that said he makes a habit of it I’d say he might get a straight reminder…why he is there, what his job is and what manner he is expected to behave, his behaviour indicates he needs it..



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    #178
    elperello
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119213019#Comment_119213019

    Of course he's not immune to criticism.

    You'll need to up your game though.

    Calling him names won't hack it.

    You haven't convinced me, only 822,565 "sheeple" to go.



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    #179
    Yurt2
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119213074#Comment_119213074

    I can take you through a whistlestop tour on why legally and in political reality, a suggestion that impeachment of the President off the back comments such as this being feasible is fantasy-land crank stuff.

    Would you like that, or are you content to admit you're drowning in your own ignorance?



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    #180
    Yurt2
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    #181
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,231 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119213102#Comment_119213102

    I’m content to participate in a sensible and respectful debate, with anyone reciprocally inclined however as you seem to lack any inclination to do the same, in a civil manner…

    “your’re drowning in your own ignorance” & “ you’re out of your depth here “…. Both examples of your attacks towards me so…

    I’ll pass, thanks… lots of other things I can be doing.



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