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Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭jusmeig


    Model 3 SR+

    Cork -> Leahy's Open farm -> Ballacolla -> Dublin

    First time using the "Add Stop" feature of the navigation.

    Speed limit most of the way, with the occasional overtake. Ballacolla was completely empty, 2 EV6s, a Kona, a Zoe all trying to get onto the ESB chargers...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,231 ✭✭✭Kramer


    m3_1.jpeg m3_2.jpeg m3_3.jpeg

    Some decent DC charging at Ionity earlier. 10% to 90% in 35 minutes & still pulling nearly 40kWs at that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,231 ✭✭✭Kramer


    Some mega efficiency stuff.........

    94Wh/km over the last 63kms & 120Wh/km over the last 681kms. Very little high speed/motorway driving there & driven very efficiently but with 58kWhs of usable energy, I reckon I could squeeze close to 600kms out of it, if I really tried & got the weather.

    m3_4.jpeg

    Scan my Tesla currently shows 60.7kWhs gross with a 2.7kWh top buffer.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,902 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Be interesting to see will Tesla mess with that buffer like they did the Model S, 94 is a loopy figure

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,580 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Yes I am getting crazy efficiency often less than 10kWh/100 km on my cross country sub 80kmh routes. Cannot really go any faster, just means slowing right up every time you meet a wider vehicle.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭Onearmedbandit


    I had the same experience at the bank holiday weekend in Ballacolla. ESB charges mobbed with an ID4 parked in the wrong spot near the high powered charger so essentially looked like it was block two spaces with more queueing. Other than a random camper ICE'ing the first bay it was free all around.

    I have also been down in Mahon twice now - its a super spot really. Normally get down from the East with 20% left so charge away back up and go into the Centre to grab some food before heading back up home.

    I do worry about them opening up the chargers to others - it could be carnage in the likes of Ballacolla at peak times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,256 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    It will be carnage because unlike all the other countries where the SuC's have been opened up, Ireland has a pi$$ poor charging network outside of Tesla, so if they do open up, they'll be swamped.. and all non Tesla's will spend additional time blocking the spaces not charging as they faff around with apps trying to get a charge started....


    If a Tesla is parked at a SuC for 30 minutes, there's a good chance it'll be charging for at least 29 minutes 30 seconds of that 30 minutes thanks to plug & charge, but a non Tesla parked there for 30 minutes, might only get 26-27 minutes charging, so ultimately non Tesla's will spend longer occupying the SuC's (and potentially blocking the adjacent space for longer). Suddenly when it gets busy all those little additional delays will have a knock on effect and we'll see queues forming.

    Our only saving grace is that we have so few SuC sites (and aren't likely to get a whole lot more due to our size), so they might not open them at all as where they have opened sites, those countries still have a good few that are Tesla only still.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,902 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I wish you were right but I can see every SuC being open once the "pilot" is over, inevitable for a PLC to grab than Revenue stream

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭Zurbaran


    Got sent the quotes today. The above is incorrect. The guy in the showroom did the quotes on the figure with the grant taken off where as the ones I was sent today had the 5k grant included in the total amount and it was explained that the grant had to come off the deposit amount and the max is 30%. The other difference is the final payment was higher at 26k but I’m happy that as I don’t seeing it being worth less than than 36k in 3 years and that is being conservative imo.

    not exact but the figures on the 3 year are roughly 12,700 deposit as the grant comes off there so that is the max I am allowed put in. 570 a month and 26k final payment. Strangely their 4 year quote was around 590 but a much lower final payment of around 17k. The apr is 4.95% and not 4.99 like I previously said.

    I did a rough work out of how much I would save in fuel a month and it’s at least 220, not to mention cheaper maintenance and tax that’s nearly 6 times cheaper a year. But then my car does only do about 28/29mpg.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭ddarcy


    So I like to see how much I can manipulate / find loopholes. For the model 3 if I order the base model with metallic paint and nothing else I get the grant of 5k.

    after delivery could I upgrade to the bigger tyre? Also add on the autopilot (this looks possible )?

    my reasoning is you order the car, get the 5k grant and then use those grant savings to get the post delivery specs desired. Ideally Tesla would price in the metallic paint and bigger tyres to be under 60k…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭innrain


    Getting autopilot is easy purchase on the app. Getting bigger wheels is possible probably as aftermarket but you sell the old ones privately. Tesla IE doesn't have anything in stock. In the US they sell the 19" for $3.5k and 20" for $4k.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,256 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Just remember every Tesla comes with AutoPilot as standard (Traffic aware cruise control & AutoSteer), and for most this is more than sufficient, particularly in Ireland.

    The next levels up are Enhanced AutoPilot (EAP) & Full Self Drive (FSD), and if you ever want them down the line*, they are simply a paid for software unlock that you can do in seconds (the same as the acceleration boost on the Long Range).

    *Note to anyone ever considering ordering EAP or FSD at time of ordering the car.... DON'T. Wait til you have collected the car. As if you do add them on at time of order, you'll be pushing up the overall purchase price of the car and will pay more VRT because of it. (It would probably also knock the cheapest RWD out of grant territory).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 964 ✭✭✭JOL1


    Be interested to hear how you get on post service I have not experienced any problems but it is experiences like yours that makes everyone nervous. Hopefully a once off experience but it would be great if you update the forum after your service. Enjoy Kerry!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 964 ✭✭✭JOL1


    To ddarcy . If you are set on a Mod 3 RWD you are correct in that you can get the metalic option (Black, Blue or Grey but not Red) and still qualify for the 5K grant. Whatever about tyres I feel sure that once you get your car with the Autopilot (which is already included and activated on ALL models), you will most likely conclude that it makes no sense to pay more for enhancements which at this stage are limited in their functionality in the Irish market.

    As it relates to tyres if I was a betting man I suspect you may also choose not to incur significant costs post delivery to upgrade. You may prefer the aesthetic look but the base 18" give better range and also more comfortable ride. Personal choice after that.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,902 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Even with Air Suspension on my last Tesla I went for the "smallest" 19" wheel, comfort is everything so went for the 18" on current M3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭wassie


    Also I would expect FSD & EAP will be available at some point here on monthly subscription like it is in the US:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭ddarcy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Mike2006


    Hi,

    Also, is the standard cruise control 'adaptive CC' or just standard?


    Thanks,

    Mike



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,256 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Adaptive.


    you can cross the M50 without tipping any of the pedals if you want.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,528 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm



    Another $2,500 gone onto the Model 3 yesterday going by the above. All other models gone up even more.

    Will they increase prices here again?

    Edit: If they go up more than €2,010 here then they'll have no car eligible for the grant. My money would be a €2,000 increase if they do it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,231 ✭✭✭Kramer


    Will they increase prices here again?

    Probably.

    It won't take too much more to push all their offerings here outside the €5k grant limit. The "$35k Model 3" will likely soon be €60k+ here 😕.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭AFOL




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,256 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Changing lane will not disable AutoPilot/adaptive cruise control, it will only disengage autosteer (on non EAP/FSD cars) if it’s activated in conjunction with AutoPilot



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,902 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Get your deposits down to lock in before increases, generally guts of 2/3 days from US price increase to Euro updates

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,528 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    I'd say the way things are going you could buy it at current prices and then sell it €60K a week later and pocket the profit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,184 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    All teslas sold here that havent done many miles have probably increased in value in the past 12 months. This will just add to that, especially if the base SR+ no longer qualifies for the 5k grant as that would add 5k to used models.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭Enigma IE


    For home charging, has anyone got the Tesla Wall Connector installed? Seemingly the 3rd generation is a significant improvement over 2nd gen. Found this video, this guy is an electrician and installed the 3rd gen in his own house and some very positive comments about the latest connector.

    https://youtu.be/kZePyRgSfjs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,256 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I have the gen 2 and it charges my car. I'd suspect the gen 3 would also charge my car.

    The gen 2 now is only available with 2.6m cable now, so if that worked for someone, I couldn't see any reason to go for the more expensive gen 3



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,184 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    The Gen3 is basically better because of load balancing and wifi support. If you need a "dumb" charger then the gen2 is perfectly competent



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭Enigma IE



    There appears to be some significant improves in gen3 e.g. smart (OTA updates), lighter/thinner cable and big safety improvements built-in, but I don't think that would warrant replacing one that is already installed/working!



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