Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

What do you think safe zones, reception centres, food distribution relief and medical attention, services comes under, your picking up on "Safe Zone's" and assuming conveniently, I said or meant something I didn't, nice attempt at deflection, but again will remind you I never mentioned peace keeping or UN security Council, that's in your head.

I fully agree that we should take as many Ukrainian refugees as is possible, as they are Europeans, they are us. Thank god we aren't close in proximity to Russia, or the same murderous fate would befall us.

But we have run out of houses and flats. We are paying the price for being so free and easy in taking in so many "pick the country with the best benefits refugees" over the last 20 years and have just run out of space and the real refugees from a real war are paying a heavy price for that absurd policy.

Rather then comparing ourselves to anyone else….

the burden we have relative to our ability towards looking after the health, wellbeing and quality of life of our citizens is and is going to be an absolute anchor of misery for decades.

I was of the opinion that National Transport Authority's Draft Transport Strategy included metro south.

As far as I know they are not , the Ukrainians are in the IBIS across the road

I see many countries are now stopping benefits or some in talks to stopping all supports for Ukrainians.

Cutting all payments unless in special circumstances, stopping free travel, food, healthcare etc..

Giving them timeframes where they need to be working (one example 180 days) and that's it.

If you leave the state for so many days to return to Ukraine within a certain timeframe you won't be allowed back in.

If they start that in other countries and we are open for business could we see a load more arriving here? Can they bounce around every few months if they can't get any housing, work etc.. in other countries?

How likely are we to follow suit? I'm guessing not likely given we are already leasing and drawing up contracts for hotels for the next few years.

I think we all know it’s nonsense but there is no political will to inject reality - it’s a bit like ordinary Joe public taking on massive mortgages and saying well there’s no other option and if we can’t pay it back sure most likely no one else can either

You do realise, that the MORE people we have here..

relying on social welfare payments, free public transport, free medical care, more medical cars… the bill.. RISES…

budgets will rise, spend will rise because demand rises… more Gardai, more prisons and prison places in addition … the list goes on…

we can bury our heads in the sand but I’d rather proactively be of the realisation that life and wellbeing for many citizens is been irrecoverably compromised.

Does your town begin with a B?

Why do you bother ? I’ve been wondering myself.

for the next decade we are simply borrowing, spending SFA on capital projects….

you’ll probably see if anything schools and third level facilities get expanded thats it… ohh and more buses to clog up the roads, nothing in the way of quality of life additions..

metro north has a speculative completion date of way in the future now… speculation is that the target date is 2034. However some people claim it now won’t ever get the go ahead.

With the extra people coming in the droves… let’s see it will be prudent to keep spending at ‘your levels’ or closer to mine.

but by all means keep up the aggressive posture..

First time I have heard actual reality being described as an "aggressive posture". 🤣

Listen I have done my best to explain it to you, using very simple factual maths, I have been more than patient, you are simply posting in bad faith now. So we will leave it there.

Think you might live near me, bunch of them in the shop buying load of drink and a big party up in the holiday village they're living in, disco lights and all 😂 Guards lifted two of them trying to break into houses, nice bunch we got,

When we moved up here and I was putting my kids in the school the principle insisted I move them to an English speaking area because mine didn't have great Irish. There's now classes set up just for the Ukrainian kids to teach through English, so they're not mixing with the local kids either. There's another bunch of them being moved into a nearby hotel which was disused. Why they are throwing 100+ into the middle of nowhere in the Gaeltacht I have no idea