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The Curious Case of Violet-Anne Wynne

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    All that would do is give a licence to ANY parent of a child to do whatever they wanted to, safe in the knowledge that the State will have to house them in a nice house. Once you push out a babby (or get a girl pregnant) then you would be free to spend every last cent you have on whatever you want because the State will have to house that child, and also house you.

    Why would anyone bother their bollix being responsible or working?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Look, you were after her since she appeared on the scene passing comment about her husband and past

    I noticed you were posting on another thread about a different gobshite's past involving a twix and a photograph.

    You must get dizzy from all those 180 degree about turns on "principles" Brucie!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,028 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    The clowns who saw her name on the ballet sheet and gave her number 1 when it was common knowledge to anyone who had the internet she owed thousands in arrears should be asked to explain themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    You noticed I commented on an incident regarding a senator in his own thread? Perish the thought. How do you compare that to starting a thread on a woman and going after her for months? How do you see that as the same unless talking out your hole, sans chocolate bar?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Including her expenses...she earns double what myself & OH earn combined...and we have managed to buy our own house...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Just another example of blatant hypocrisy Brucie. Either it's fair to pass comment on someone based on what they did in the past or it isn't.

    In one case you have an alleged one-off incident involving a drunk person at a festival versus a person who had the neck to rip off a charity on an ongoing basis for years.

    Most people would conclude that an ongoing, continued act, was more of an indication of an individual's character than a possibly one-off incident. So it is strange that when you pick one as relevant, and one which isn't fair to bring up, that you appear to have the opposite view.



  • Posts: 14,768 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Are you advocating that her kids should be taken into care, or that the state should be responsible for housing people, even though they are on a wage substantially above the average?

    Ms Wynne has to take ownership of the predicament she finds herself in. No LL is going to chance renting to a tenant whom it is widely reported refused to pay rent for four years.

    Sorry Blaaz, this is not an indication of a failed state, it is an indication of parents failing their children.



  • Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    if you keep making this same nonsense post the site will run out of commas



  • Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think the policy of taking large numbers of kids into care via mother and baby homes has failed and took a coverup last year by government to stop its full exposure


    I have no hassle saying she is a gowl,but also feel no child should be homeless in 2022 in what we are told is a rich country,and a state that refuses to gaurantee this,to my eyes, a failure.



  • Posts: 14,768 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You are ignoring the responsibility of the parents, the State should not be a substitute for that, to be called on when parents make poor choices, whilst having substantial means to support themselves. The State should be there to help those that cannot help themselves, not to help idiots in very, very high paying jobs.

    The fact is that Ms Wynne is a highly paid resident in what you term a “rich country”, but through her fault and no one else’s, she has put her family in a bind. She has far better financial means to help herself out of that bind than most, so let’s see if she is able to.

    By the way, I forgot to add in my earlier post, the backward hillbillies who elected her should not be allowed to vote in future elections.



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  • Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Unfortunately, that’s what is happening. A large section of society abdicating their parental and civic responsibilities by expecting da gubberment to give them food, clothes and shelter for little or no return on their investment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    I don't know what has you so upset. In any case, you're only in for a rise. Its a bit sad Don. Be well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    You made this up. Don't we have 4% unemployment or there abouts? Seems to me you are making up things to explain away the housing, health crises and the inflation situation. Say anything to protect gubberment.

    What ever about Violet Anne, a long running thread going after her personal ife and husband would not be accepted or even allowed if she was in a government party. We'd have many of the larger contributors here calling people sexist, mysognist and the like. There'd be bans handed out too I'd expect.



  • Posts: 14,768 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Take a day off will ya.

    Everyone knows there is a shortage of houses, that is not to take away though that Ms Wynne’s actions are the main contributing factor to the situation she finds herself in, and she has substantial means in the form of 150k per year pay to help her out of that situation.

    This has nothing to do with party politics, Maria Bailey got destroyed on Boards for her gross stupidity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    Bailey was on an event. I don't know who her husband is. I don't know if she owns or rents, is in arrears or was in the past.

    I'm not defending her I'm critical of the treatment she gets and confident if she was in a government party the very same people lambasting her would be crying foul.

    I know you are but what am I?

    You either don't know what inconsistencies are or are lying to try justify your having an off topic go. Its sad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Another pathetic attempt to deflect and/or attack the poster.

    You got nothing Brucie.


    You are on here outraged that people mention this lady's past of ripping off a housing charity over a sustained period, yet over on another thread you keep going on and on about an allegation concerning something another politician was alleged to have done as a young fella at a music festival.



  • Posts: 14,768 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Your claim of foul treatment and how it would relate to someone in a Government party would seem flawed when you take into consideration that Bailey was a serving FG TD during the period she was getting lambasted both on Boards and mainstream media for putting herself in a predicament of her own making, then looking for sympathy whilst blaming others. Does this sound familiar?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    I'm calling out your nonsense. I don't need to deflect the upset ramblings of an obsessive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    No sympathy at all. Bailey wasn't lambasted over her husband and living arrangements. Bailey's party were defending the insurance industry and campaigning about false claims. Her claim played into that. The attacks on Violet ann are a lower grade and beyond political.

    Can you point to one other politician who gets attacked so much, so long and so broadly about such things? I can't. It wouldn't be allowed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Very touchy Brucie. It's hardly obsessive now to point out your blatant hypocrisies is it?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    Hypocrisy, another word you don't seem to get.

    I say upset, you say touchy. Good one.

    Obsessed in that you are labouring hard to create spin to feed your efforts at having a go. Sad. Now go off and defend another sex assault 'prank'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Can you point to one other politician who gets attacked so much, so long and so broadly about such things? I can't. It wouldn't be allowed.

    Perhaps not a lot of them go so far as to rip off charities?

    Haughey still gets mentioned for ripping off a fund for an operation for (I think) Brian Lenihan Sr. So that is one comparison I suppose.

    Mick Wallace always gets a mention for ripping off the Revenue and also for stealing his employees pension contributions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    C'mon Brucie. Entertain us.

    Explain to us why it is inappropriate to mention about one politician's past which involved an admitted sustained period of refusing to pay rent to a charity that had provided them with a house, but it is appropriate for you to go on and on about unproven (and denied) allegations about another politician for a single incident which allegedly occurred at a music festival when they were a teenager or early 20's. The former resulted in a court judgment against the person. The latter resulted in nothing except an allegation which was denied.

    As you appear to be fond of saying yourself - Sad.



  • Posts: 14,768 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Can you point to another to another politician who complains about not being able to get accommodation having admitted refusing to pay rent to a charity for 4 yrs, or whose spouse has been found in possession of drugs? If there was another politician who did this, and released a video looking for public sympathy, they would receive the same treatment.

    Apart from her attempt to claim a payout from the hotel having contributed herself to her “accident”, and then run a mini marathon a few weeks later when she was “injured”, Bailey was tone deaf and unable to read the public’s annoyance with insurance claims. Here we now have a housing crisis, but this twit admitted to not paying rent, has an income of €150k per year, has a druggie husband, but wants sympathy from the public because she can’t get a house. For her inability to read the room and lack of awareness, she deserves to be lambasted every bit as much as Bailey. Her family are where they are because of the parents choices.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    Deservedly so but not the same. Whats their wife's names and do they rent or buy? Have they been in rent arrears, how many kids do they have? Do their wives have a medical condition and what is it? See the difference?

    Not comparable. Violet deserves criticism IMO, but the level is sustained, personal and way past any policy. I've said enough about that assault. I'd be more curious as to why people like you defended it. And it wasn't denied.

    I don't see a connection. As I spelled out, Bailey was critical for her attempted con. We didn't harp on about her husband etc.

    Violet strikes me as a complete chancer well due criticism IMO. Just pointing out how heavy and long running it is in this thread, the hypocrisy of many here and the fact that if she was a government minister the same gang would be complaining and the thread would be closed.



  • Posts: 14,768 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Maria Bailey’s husband didn’t plead guilty to drug possession while she was an elected public representative.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Deservedly so but not the same. Whats their wife's names and do they rent or buy? Have they been in rent arrears, how many kids do they have? Do their wives have a medical condition and what is it? See the difference?


    I wasn't aware any of their spouses were before the courts or that they were going to the papers looking for help because of the number of children they had.


    In contrast, it was published in March, when pleading guilty to possessing illegal drugs, that a particular individual had 16 previous convictions already at that time - most of which were for road traffic offences, including two for driving without insurance:

    It says that sentencing will be on June 15th.


    There is a more recent case of the same man being charged with other offences, including driving without insurance related to an incident before last Christmas. Only charged of course and innocent unless proven guilty. The report is below.

    If things are in the courts, and in the paper, people are entitled to comment on them. Same as any other story. It's not as if they are rooting through your man's bins to find out secrets. Don't be kidding yourself that if it were any other politician or political party that the papers would not be printing the court reports. As regarding medical condition, that has apparently been trotted out as an excuse rather than a case of someone surreptitiously finding that out and publishing it.

    It is also relevant to the story (put out by an individual themselves) that they are having difficulty in obtaining rental accommodation. You have to put things into context. Yes there is a shortage of housing, but if I had a house, I'd be very slow to rent to people with such a past record. Surely you would be too? Anyone on here who would criticise a landlord for not taking a chance on them can put themselves forward as a personal guarantor for their rent if they wish. The lady currently has a well paid job, but it is not a stable job and it could be gone at the next election.


    Feel free to nominate any government minister, or any other party politician, who has been in the media for the wrong reason and it is likely that I won't back them up.


    Edit: Here is another example of the son of a former politician who was in trouble and it was published in the paper as such:


    You say that people keep going on about that lady. One way to stop that would be for there to stop being new stories related to these things in the paper. And a good way to stop that is for people to try to stop getting into the trouble in the first place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭Deeec


    Violet Anne posted on social media last week about her families 'housing' problem. She posted a video of herself talking about her problems and bizarrely mentioned that her husband was been harrassed by local gardai. She then paraded herself around every media outlet who would have her and discussed her problems further. Its absolutely fair that her personal life can be discussed here or publicly. She has bought this information regarding HER PERSONAL LIFE to public attention. She only has herself to blame.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    I'd be more curious as to why people like you defended it

    I'd be more curious as to why people like you defended that allegation Brucie?


    (You defended it more than me. I never even commented on that incident. The only mention I made towards it was to point out the hypocritical posters who made a big thing about it while trying to hush up other incidents.)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,996 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Why doesn't she apply for a mortgage and buy a house?



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