Strange New Worlds 1x05 - 'Spock Amok' ~~ { Spoilers Within }

TheIrishGrover · 04-06-2022 11:44PM

That.

Was.

FANTASTIC.

Yet another episode hitting it out of the park. So much fun. (I genuinely laughed out loud at the Doctor trying to backpedal: "I don't know what I'm saying" wwith the terrified grin on his face (And later "They're going to Nerve Pinch us, aren't they?" "Yes. Probably.") Spock and T'Pring flirting was amazing (And bloody hell is T'pring actress crazy beautiful). The musical callbacks (Not only on Vulcan but also when the solar sails deployed on the beautiful ship). Pike with Spock and T'Pring. The (Admittedly not very subtle) suggestion of Chapel liking Spock (Totally canon with TOS of course). The total deadpan delivery of the transporter/chewing gum test "Spearmint again. Wow". Even the "They are IDIOTS, You are FUN"

Hats off to all involved with this series. They deserve every bit of kudos. In the space of 5 episodes they brought back the fun and entertainment to Trek (series and movies) that has been missing, in my opinion, since DS9.

It is unfortunate that Disco and Picard have now cast their die in that they cannot change their tone without changing the series (Las series of Picard could be a bit of an "Old School" romp with the TNG crew but will probably not go that direction.

I know, from the start, that this was always intended to be more episodic and fun but holy moly did they ever get it right!

In case you didn't gather, I'm simply LOVING this! I think we have 5 more episodes ahead? Bring it.

pixelburp · 07-06-2022 08:46PM

Unreservedly entertaining, absolutely loved every minute of that episode. This is getting to the point where we might start talking about near-perfect season of TV entertainment.

This was pitch perfect "comedy" episode to blow off steam between Adventures in Space. But while the Spock stuff was the main driver, everything else was just *chefs kiss*. The Pike subplot was actually a decent Trek Diplomacy tale, complete with a decent payoff; Chapel's own little plot not too overdone; and Una/Singh trying to have fun was just a total delight. The signing of the damaged hull plate was a moment that felt earned from the 5 episodes we have spent with these people.

Even little moments like the Doctor's silly fishing hat just added a little extra to his personality, even though he barely featured.

God damn this show is making it look easy.

GSPfan · 07-06-2022 10:47PM

I rewatched episode 1 and Ortegas mentioned Enterprise Bingo to Uhura when they were on their way to Pikes quarters. Hadn’t noticed that before.

PhiloCypher · 07-06-2022 11:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119171928#Comment_119171928

Really ? I genuinely thought they retconned it in , or they were just showing a deleted scene that didn't make the cut, because otherwise why wasnt i going "Enterprise Bingo" whats that ? on my multiple watches of the episode .

corkie · 08-06-2022 12:09AM

It was episode 2, not 1, that there was a mention of it.

The comet, C/2260-Quentin, is making its way through the Persephone system, and the USS Enterprise has been sent to survey it. Onboard, Uhura has been summoned to dine with CaptainPike in his cabin, and Ortegas told her to wear her dress uniform. As she steps off the turbolift, she encounters Ortegas, who is not in uniform at all, and Uhura realizes she is being hazed. Ortegas admits it, saying people got bored on a "small" ship. As Uhura turns to change, Ortegas warns she does not want to be late to the captain's table. The helm officer jokes that Uhura has her first square of "Enterprise bingo", reminding her that even she had been a cadet once and subject to all the "traditions" that came with it.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Children_of_the_Comet_(episode)

But doesn't mention hazing in it? https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Enterprise_bingo

GSPfan · 08-06-2022 12:41AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119172206#Comment_119172206

That was episode 2? Huh. I suppose it was the episode she sang in. Makes sense now thinking of it.

I rewatched 3 episodes so it was in there somewhere.

GreeBo · 09-06-2022 03:42PM

This is all I could think of, but Im ok with that! (unfortunately ripped with all the technology found in a boiled potato)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9TZ79Vcl8Y

pixelburp · 09-06-2022 03:49PM

And in a genetically similar vein...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxQnuMGyPJs

corkie · 09-06-2022 05:52PM

https://screenrant.com/star-trek-vulcan-katra-strange-new-worlds-retcon/

Previously in Star Trek, katra transference has been used as a heavy duty solution to problems of the mortal and metaphysical kind. Bringing a beloved Starfleet officer back from the dead in Star Trek III, resurrecting Michael Burnham in Star Trek: Discovery, or preserving oneself after death in Star Trek: Enterprise, etc. Katra is arguably used (albeit not by name) between Nurse Chapel and Spock in Star Trek: The Original Series but, once again, the measure is demanded by a matter of life and death. Star Trek gives the impression that katra transference is a weighty matter not to be used under trivial circumstances... Trivial circumstances like having a tiff with your fiancée, for example.

Don't remember it been used on Discovery?

On search it was briefly mentioned in how Sarek saved Micheal at some stage in the past.

We learn early on in Discovery that PU Sarek saved Michael and his katra became connected with Michael. The use of a mind meld to save Micahel left part of Sarek’s katra in Michael linking them with a psychic connection. They have even communicated through great distances because they share Sarek’s katra. There are implications with how this sharing would affect Sarek in the long-term. ~ Link

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Lethe_%28episode%29

breezy1985 · 09-06-2022 05:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119180319#Comment_119180319

There are implications with how this sharing would affect Sarek in the long-term

That explains his crying in TNG.

corkie · 09-06-2022 09:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119180348#Comment_119180348

Proof that Sarek Still Carries Michael Burnham's Katra in Star Trek TNG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAusU9TCUs8

Sarek Transferred Michael's Katra to Picard During their Mind Meld in Star Trek TNG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6nn_6Z-t5g

AMKC · 09-06-2022 11:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119181213#Comment_119181213

The second one was very good but a bit weird lol.

Who would say I offer you the chance to touch your sister? That is just wrong.

corkie · 13-06-2022 06:13PM

* Sign the Scorch!!??

TOS Enterprise Had No Forcefields Unlike in Star Trek Strange New Worlds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E09KDHG9Gnw

Making this scene impossible for the time period!??

Enterprise Bingo - Star Trek Strange New Worlds S01E05

https://youtu.be/s_tB-TTu-Y8?t=191

flazio · 06-07-2022 10:25PM

OK so this has only just appeared on Paramount today.

From my perspective, we are now running parallel with The Orville and somehow Strange New Worlds has become more fun than The Orville.

flazio · 06-07-2022 10:42PM

Also, someone keeps saying that this Nurse Chapel is not like the TOS Chapel. Well watching the Trek Culture Up and Down reviews for SNW, Sean mentions that Majel Barret-Rodenberry (Queen Star Trek herself) said that Nurse Chapel didn't really have much of a character anyway. So the canvas is actually a lot blanker then you might expect. And I love her character here.

pixelburp · 07-07-2022 08:54AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119301524#Comment_119301524

What has been great about this show has been that it gave Chapel a character, without tipping entirely into the realms of outright contradiction.

This found video just about sums it up: the cumulative 4 minutes they let her have a personality; and as said, Strange New Worlds doesn't contradict any of this. In fact it retroactively highlights those few fleeting moments she seemed to flirt with Spock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFsW8HaAsV4

Strange New Worlds 1x05 - 'Spock Amok' ~~ { ** Spoilers Within ** }

Comments