BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? **threadbans in OP**

To be completely honest, these days common sense conservatism is simply just common sense itself; a concept that brings the Labour Party out in a veritable rash.

You might respond, "...that's just meaningless fluff". But it isn't. Take what Boris Johnson said only a couple of weeks ago, to give one of many possible examples, where he was asked to respond to the threat of biological men in women's sport. To everyone else, common sense is common sense, and Johnson says it like it is (though it's amazing we have reached a position where a Prime Minister has to confirm whether biological men should compete with women).

And that's one of the advantages that the Conservatives and Johnson have over Labour; namely, the ability to speak common sense on issues like this, but certainly not exclusively to this.

You asked about common sense conservatism, and I replied accordingly with a common sense example. Seems perfectly fitting, to me at least.

And let's not forget that it was the Conservative Party that unilaterally introduced same-sex marriage to the UK.

Not Labour, the Conservatives.

Johnson is leading the way on banning gay conversion "therapy". Yet again, the Conservatives leading the way on LGB-T issues.

You're rejecting evidence?

I can't say I'm surprised. Everybody knows that David Cameron has been a staunch ally to the LGBT community and was in favour of same-sex marriage even when it was unpopular among other Tory MPs. You're totally wrong on this, @ancapailldorcha.

This was from his 2011 Conservative Party conference speech:

Gay marriage was introduced by Cameron and the Conservatives and was legalised in March 2014.

So you want us to believe that David Cameron lied at the Conservative Party conference in 2010, then spent the next 3-years lying about why equal marriage needed to pass, and then passed equal marriage legislation despite being secretly opposed to it?

Irrational doesn't even begin to cover it. It borders on severe paranoia. But what's what has come to characterise the the hard-left: irrationality.

As for your declaration that Boris Johnson is a "known homophobe", I wholeheartedly disagree with this. If he were a known homophobe who hated gay people, why is he pushing for a ban on gay conversion therapy?

Again, what you say rarely if ever aligns with reality.

Blind hatred of the Conservatives now have you chanting lines such as "The word of a Tory is not evidence".

Have you any idea how bizarre this sounds?

You mean the question, is Boris Johnson toast?

No, he's a human being the last time I checked.

But in all seriousness, I'm confident will remain PM after he wins any leadership contest, should it occur.

Boris has been right on all the big issues: fastest COVID vaccination in Europe; Brexit completed; leading response to the Ukraine war; record low unemployment.

The partygate stuff, nobody really cares about. The chattering classes and the hard-left love it, though; eyeing it up as an opportunity to heave against Johnson.

That said, Beth Rigby reported that the number of MPs who are on the government payroll - cabinet ministers, junior ministers, parliamentary private secretaries - is between 160 and 170 - and the target Johnson needs to reach is 181.

Nigel Farage argues that Johnson should go on the basis that a leader is needed to combat illegal immigration. Former Conservative cabinet minister, Anne Widdecombe, has come out to back Johnson, though. So leading conservative opinion is divided on Johnson.

Leading lights of the party including Sunak, Gove, Kwarteng, Truss, Raab, and Wallace have already come out to back Johnson.

Not far from the target at all. He'll almost certainly survive.