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Solar PV Hints, Tips & Troubleshooting

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Wilst23


    With a Solis hybrid inverter plus a 2.4kWhr Pylontech battery, what determines the maximum power that can be output from the battery?

    The Pylontech battery specifications indicate a 25A (=1.2kW) recommended discharge rate and 50A (=2.4kW) maximum discharge rate. How does this work in practice? Does the Solis configuration for Pylontech batteries mean it will only draw 25A or can it draw up to 50A for short periods?

    For example what will happen at night if a 2kW heater is turned on for 10 minutes, assuming all other house loads are 0. Will the inverter draw 42A from the battery to fully power the heater for the 10 minutes, or will the battery output be limited to 25A and the additional 0.8kW must come from the grid?

    Does the same limit apply if using the Backup socket when the grid is down?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,275 ✭✭✭irishchris


    Yep unfortunately it is 25a power output per 2.4 so max will be 25amps at night with rest took from grid



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,609 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    Rewiring the house. Don't have an electric car at the moment but will in the future I guess. As such, I want some prep wiring done when the time comes to put in PV cells and charging point. Could someone suggest what I might need to do from a wiring perspective?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Evd-Burner


    depends on distance.

    If it was mine I would leave a twin and earth in a conjunction box along with 2 x cat5 cables. One back to the board and 1 back to wherever your bringing any comms cables back to.

    This would allow you with the new Zappi to wire in for the Internet directly and connect any CT clamps if you were to go solar or have an electric shower etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    I see a lot of people talking about over voltage issues.

    My friend is getting grid over voltage alarms on his every second day.

    Are these anything to be worried about?

    What is over voltage and how do you fix it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Wilst23



    It's a pity because the battery specifications allows 50A max.

    Limiting it to the lower currents will reduce heating and presumably help the battery lifetime and, but short periods at 50A to handle spike loads should really be supported by the inverter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Evd-Burner


    Finally got around to installing my own solar.

    4.5kW DC E/W split with a 3.6 solis inverter. Have an electrician lined up to do the hook ups next week and install the Zappi. Total cost will be 4.4k after the electric car grant.

    This is the first of 3 arrays and at least 20kWh of battery storage I plan to over the next 5 years. But they have to wait for building work and a heat pump install. Will have 2 EVs come July.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    U are not getting a terrible price per watt installed there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,666 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    Yes bring two Cat6 (or 5e) one to the main board and one to your comms cabinet. I just built my house and wired for two EV charge points and only brought one Cat 6 to each point and now I realised I should have brought 2. As they use the cat6 for the CT clamps to your main ESB incomer and now there is none to hard wire in my Zappi to my network. Its a bit of a shame really but there is always wifi to connect it anyway.

    Make sure the power cables to the charge point have to be at minimum 6mm2 cables (please correct me if I am wrong on the sizes). Also make sure the main tails coming into the house are adequate. My Zappi installer said one of the main reasons he fails installs is because the main ESB tails are too small for the load.

    For solar PV I don't know, lads on here will better able to spec this for you.(off the top of my head they were two single core cables from each string, but I could be totally wrong..)

    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    @eco, you can use all the wires from the one Cat cable so you should be good, the second Cat is for future failure cover. I have the one Cat cable with 3 clamps working fine talking to my Zappi. There are 4 pairs on a CAT cable if I'm not mistaken



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Very neatly done, quite flat to the Sun but you have to work with what you have at your disposal



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Evd-Burner


    Yeah I only get about 15 degrees. Should be decent enough in the summer months.

    The next array should be around the 5.5kW size on an almost 45 degree angle. Just have to wait until the attics being done so the scaffolding is there and I can DIY :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    We are in the process of completing the NC6 documentation for the ESB to let them know of our DIY solar install. It looks like this involves completing and sending them the following documentation:

    We have been able to pull together all the relevant documentation bar one mentioned in the NC6-01-R7. It looks like they need an additional fourth document too:

    • "Type test certificate"

    Does anyone know what this certificate is? Googling it doesnt return much information. Would it have come with the inverter? If so, i can ask the supplier if they can give us a copy.

    Also, in the same NC6-01-R7 form, what do you put in the line below under "Corresponding Type Test Certificate"?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Cerdito


    Hi all,

    I have a recently installed solar PV setup with Solis inverter, 5kWh PureStorage battery and an Eddi diverter. I need hot water in the morning around 6:30am, if the previous day hasn't been great for solar generation, this means I need to boost the immersion on the Eddi. The immersion uses 2.7kW.

    The power for the boost all comes in from the grid, even if the battery is at a decent charge e.g. 50%. Is there any way to use the battery to pwer the immersion in this scenario?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,178 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    It should pull from the battery if the battery has enough juice in it.

    The battery might be set though to only allow a low discharge rate, like mine was, it was set at a max discharge rate of 5 amps or something!! (this could be a default value on Solis hybrid inverters).

    I'd have a look in the storage battery options in the menu (code is 0010), and check what the discharge rate is set at.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Cerdito


    I think you're on to something. My Discharge Limitation was set to 8A. I've increased it to 100A which my Purestorage battery is rated for. Will see if this makes a difference tomorrow.

    Cheers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,178 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    It should do, it was actually 8 amps mine was set to as well, for some reason i had 5 in my head, but it was indeed 8 amps!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,116 ✭✭✭paulbok


    Has anyone with an old style meter that goes backwards, submitted a negative readings to their supplier?

    How did that work on the bill?

    And did it trigger an alarm for them to speed up the meter change?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,270 ✭✭✭con747


    Love to get an answer to this as well, I have been adding a couple of units to my reading to show some usage. I did see somewhere someone did and the "computer says no" issue happened and wouldn't accept it for billing but can't think of where I seen that. I would also love to know where all the reversed units go when you eventually have no option but change meters when the time comes. I see people here on boards say your new meter is set at 0.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,116 ✭✭✭paulbok


    I did the same on the last reading, added a few to the previous one which was read at the meter by networks guy. Had hoped to avoid him during the summer and carry the surpluss into the winter. 😉



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Evd-Burner


    I have literally just sent Solis an email requesting both documents and requesting them to confirm what should be written in that section.

    Will update you when they respond, PM just incase so I don't forget :)



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    We haven't had the meter read since Covid, no issues. There are rakes of folk out there not allowing folk into their houses (our meter in the house).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    Good timing! That would be fantastic if you could give us an update. Thanks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭mun1


    The type test cert for the inverter is the certificate of conformity supplied by solartricity. This is what i sent in 2 years ago



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭boosabum


    Did this work, I seem to be drawing from grid will full battery and lots of export. Think there must be a setting somewhere that is not correct



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,178 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Yeah, never any issues since changing that setting, will always pull from the battery now and deplete it to 20% before taking from the grid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭boosabum


    Did you go to 65A ?

    I tired changing mine but it won't save the setting, seems to default back to 8A 😒



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,178 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I think I set it to 50a


    and I had that exact same issue, kept reverting back to 8a for some reason!! Then eventually it just stuck!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭yankinlk


    Didn't we decide it can't be adjusted when it's full or close to it, wait until battery is filling to change I recall



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,444 ✭✭✭championc


    The TYPE Certificate would be the en50549IE (IE specific) cert for the inverter



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